Oil cooler causes oil press. drop.

88-7MGTE

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Hey guys i have a major problem with my oil cooler, it drops the oil pressure to like 20psi at idle.
Oil cooler is a 8 row with -10 lines with oil filter relocation, that's the first time i heard of anything like that, right now my mechanic recommended to run without oil cooler until i brake in the new engine, and later put a small oil cooler, let me know what you guys think of that.
Now without the cooler at all, its about 65psi at idle.

Thanks

Sady
 

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stock psi at ilde with the 7m is like 5psi and at 3k is like 40psi. its a high volume low pressure design. does not sound anything out of the ordinary. most mechanics are looking for like 20-40 psi at idle and 60-80 psi at 3k which is not even close to stock for the 7m.
 

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Even better ;)
You do need to run a thermostat in the circuit and dump the stock filter head.
 

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thats one hell of a pressure drop for an oil cooler! the rx7 gave me weird results along with another local guy as well on an unshimmed pump. Thats the only one ive seen though...

what brand? are you measuring the hot psi or cold psi?
 

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I'm wondering what would make the motor produce 65 psi oil pressure at idle and how it's being measured.
 
Couple of considerations:

1. The turbo oil filter adapter has its own relief valve which opens at about 40 PSI to bypass oil through the cooler and back into the pan. When the engine is hot, the relief valve in the pump (normally set to about 60-70 PSI) does not open since the oil viscosity is low, and the oil cooler bypass relief valve dominates.

2. Do not forget that the stock pressure gauge is not accurate, even with a new sending unit. In my built '91, the dash gauge reads near zero at hot idle with a new sender. If you want to determine actual pressure with minimum hassle, get a new filter and use a center punch to make a hole in the bottom (no metal chips that way). Wiggle the punch to open the hole to 1/4". Scrape off the paint and solder in a stub of 1/4" copper tubing. Connect it to a gauge with fuel hose and clamps. In my case the actual pressure at idle was 20-25 PSI, plenty. Although this technique reads pressure upstream of the filter element, pressure drop across it at idle (hot, low viscosity, low flow) is minimal.

Hope this helps. Your mechanic does not appear to be correct. Few professionals understand the 7M.

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88-7MGTE;1351246 said:
Hey guys i have a major problem with my oil cooler, it drops the oil pressure to like 20psi at idle.
Oil cooler is a 8 row with -10 lines with oil filter relocation, that's the first time i heard of anything like that, right now my mechanic recommended to run without oil cooler until i brake in the new engine, and later put a small oil cooler, let me know what you guys think of that.
Now without the cooler at all, its about 65psi at idle.

Thanks

Sady
 

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jdub;1351367 said:
I'm wondering what would make the motor produce 65 psi oil pressure at idle and how it's being measured.



on the coldest day i started my car in the winter(shimmed 5mm, redline 5w30, cant remember if i was on dual filter relocated yet...) i hit over 100psi... but it was sub 30 degrees... on stock gauge.

and i wouldnt measure the pressure at the filter... thats RIGHT after the pump, so of course its going to be high... if you want a true reading use the port where the stock sender is, or another location post-pump.
 

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I'd buy off on it if it were winter with a shimmed pump...but, it's June last I checked ;)

Bernie - Don't forget the oil squirters...they open up at ~40 psi as well and serve as a "controlled leak" that bleeds off pressure.

We need more info on how the OP has his oil system configured. Right now we are all guessing.