You now know he's out to get you so it's time to be a little smart and watch your arse!
Going bush could work but what do you do for a job out there?
Going bush could work but what do you do for a job out there?
off duty sherrif... can he do anything?
- Thread starter Insidious Surmiser
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i just work inside, i already quit btw, just to be on the safe side, i don't want my supra to be impounded and used as a undercover car, honestly, if that happened, i'd prolly lose it (mentally), i'd end up doing somethin really stupid... not to mention i can't afford to get arrested, are you jokin?
Simple as this, all he has to do is display a badge, service weapon, uniform, etc...any of those to act under the color of law. For the one that said he can't give you a ticket without a camera...BS. It's your word against the officers...guess what? You'll get the book thrown at you. Also most officers are certified to judge your speed with their eyes and it will hold in court. They go through tests for this. They very well can pull you over in their private vehicle, again they have to display things that allow them to act under color of law (basically just indentify themselves). So that is BS too. I have been in school for the past year in criminal justice and BLET. There is a lot of things in this thread worth the BS flag. He was being nice to you for not doing the things he "threatened", he could very well have totally fucked you over. Passing on a double yellow is just plain stupid, immature, and dangerous. You claim to know what you are doing but so do the people marking the roads, there is a specific reason that isn't marked to pass. Plain and simple, if you don't want to be "harassed" then don't do stupid shit. Follow the laws, it's alot easier in the long run to do so.
EDIT: for those stating an officer is an officer 24/7 you are correct. Off duty/on duty is the same thing, you just have less to identify who you are. You're badge alone is plenty to identify who you are. Now to pull you over without a marked car or without lights is a little trickier, if they are able to get you to notice their badge that, without a doubt, will be trying to show you...then you are fucked because the "i didn't know who he was" defence is out of the window. So if you see that badge, pull over. If you choose not to look at him in any way, rest assure a marked car has been called and is hauling ass after you.
2nd Edit: I seriously call BS that he said "i will arrest you if you go to work tomorrow".
EDIT: for those stating an officer is an officer 24/7 you are correct. Off duty/on duty is the same thing, you just have less to identify who you are. You're badge alone is plenty to identify who you are. Now to pull you over without a marked car or without lights is a little trickier, if they are able to get you to notice their badge that, without a doubt, will be trying to show you...then you are fucked because the "i didn't know who he was" defence is out of the window. So if you see that badge, pull over. If you choose not to look at him in any way, rest assure a marked car has been called and is hauling ass after you.
2nd Edit: I seriously call BS that he said "i will arrest you if you go to work tomorrow".
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Fuzz420
Are U Here 2 take My Baby
An off-duty officer is supposed to call in another officer thats on duty and the off-duty officer is to detain you untill the other cops arrive.If he didnt do anything when it happened hes not going to do anything at all. Just make sure to drive like a sane person on the same route to work tomorrow and you will be a-ok.Yes he was trying to scare you b/c you endagered yourself and others.
Fuzz420 said:
Only reason they would need to call in an on-duty is for supplies (to write tickets, that is if they don't have their book with them)...or a transport if they are doing an arrest. They are not allowed to transport criminals in private vehicles...it's an insurance thing. Other than that, they have the same exact power and freedom as an on duty.
I am curious as to his threats to arrest you and tow your car, LOL. The most he could do is give you a couple steep fined tickets or something to that effect, I'd watch out I had a cop who just didn't like me and he followed me for a month until he finally got me for "running a yield" which is not a crime but I didn't fight it. He had stopped me a month before for DUI then looked like a tard when it was an open container alright, of diet mt dew, it was one of those 12oz bottles of diet dew, they look a bit like hieniken bottles.
sorry again but i had a off duty literaly pull me out of my car when i talked back to him i should have fucking sued the city but im not that kind of person lol. by the way the whole trained eyes thing is:bsflag: the LAW that least here says they can only give you a ticket for 2 over if they did acctualy get a speedgun on you but at the same time try to prove he didnt get a speed.
whenmunkysfly said:
LOL do some research man...hell take the classes I have taken. You will end up eating that bs flag.
EDIT: For NC law. Where the thread starter is located...
lol ok i dont think there is any better experiance then first hand and my info was speeking in turms of speeding. like i said you still have to prove that he didnt infact get a speed on you.also if your doing something like 150 your now in the obviuse reckless indangermentBlksupra1jzed said:
and why is everyone faveret phrase " Do some research"
Fuzz420
Are U Here 2 take My Baby
Blksupra1jzed said:
True but how often are they going to have there citation book with them.What if you have warrents will they still be able to check.Im sure with technology they can use there nextel phone.The best way is to avoid the whole situation all together
Fuzz420 said:
Exactly, but again, they can pull you and if they don't have what they need...refer back to your post. The solution here isn't to argue about what they can/can't do, it's simple. Be mature on the roads and just don't pull any stunts. It's just not smart to bring attention to yourself by doing something that really puts alot of people including yourself into danger. Now as far as the statement "trust me, i know what i am doing". JDM7m, there are a couple things that drive me nuts about that statement and I really really hope you didn't say anything of that nature to the officer. The first thing is...that's extremely cocky. The second, if you really do know what you are doing and that is not a factor, you are forgetting one major factor...everyone else. You don't know how they will act, you don't know how their reaction will be to that stunt, and further more, you don't know if someone may pull out in front of you into the incoming lane. If it's double yellow, as far as legalities go, they don't have to worry if there is a car passing. If you hit them head on because of a pass on double yellow...your fault. You just gotta think and play it safe. I also know in NC they are cracking down big time on aggressive driving. If they decide to nail you with careless/wreckless, that is an arrestable offense. Just remember that.
Adjuster
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I find that street racing my neighbor who is a local watch captian is the best option...
His Mustang is faster off the line, but I can pull him on top 9 times out of 10...
The funny part is his guessed my speed at over 120mph when I passed him one day... (I was going about 123mph, I looked just after I passed him and started to slow down....)
If you did pass over a double yellow line, your nailed. If the officer wanted to write you up, or try and arrest you for reckless driving, he should have done it at the time he threatened you. If he does it later, it's reckless on his part to leave you on the street to cause more mayhem if you know what I'm talking about. (You can quietly point this out to the judge, but you'll still be arrested, and your vehicle possibly impounded depending on the local laws in your state.)
Being young sucks because often the PD can do with you as they wish. As you get older, they are less likely to be assholes, but every situation has it's differences for sure, and age is no guarentee of not getting a ticket, or being arrested. It really depends on what you did, and who the officer is that your dealing with.
Some times I've been able to talk my way out of cites, and others I have not, but it's generally up to the officer and I try and keep my attitude positive, be polite and do as they ask, give them the paperwork they need, and tell them up front when I'm going to move my hands, or open up the glove box, or center console etc.
Here is what you should do anytime your pulled over.
1) Don't admit to anything.
2) Be polite.
3) Keep your hands on the steering wheel, where they can see them.
4) Roll down your window as you pull to a stop. (Only if you have power down, if you have to crank them, wait till they come up to the window.)
5) Shut down your car if they ask. (You'll need it on to roll down the windows.)
6) Get your information when they ask for it. Keep it in one place, and make sure it's current.
7) Don't be chatty. IE: SHUT UP. Speak when spoken to is a good rule of thumb.
8) Don't argue cites. This is not the time, wait till your in court if you have to.
9) Sign the ticket.
10) Signal, wait for open traffic, and then carefully pull out into traffic. No burnouts, or risky lane changes with no signal. You don't want another ticket
5)
His Mustang is faster off the line, but I can pull him on top 9 times out of 10...
The funny part is his guessed my speed at over 120mph when I passed him one day... (I was going about 123mph, I looked just after I passed him and started to slow down....)
If you did pass over a double yellow line, your nailed. If the officer wanted to write you up, or try and arrest you for reckless driving, he should have done it at the time he threatened you. If he does it later, it's reckless on his part to leave you on the street to cause more mayhem if you know what I'm talking about. (You can quietly point this out to the judge, but you'll still be arrested, and your vehicle possibly impounded depending on the local laws in your state.)
Being young sucks because often the PD can do with you as they wish. As you get older, they are less likely to be assholes, but every situation has it's differences for sure, and age is no guarentee of not getting a ticket, or being arrested. It really depends on what you did, and who the officer is that your dealing with.
Some times I've been able to talk my way out of cites, and others I have not, but it's generally up to the officer and I try and keep my attitude positive, be polite and do as they ask, give them the paperwork they need, and tell them up front when I'm going to move my hands, or open up the glove box, or center console etc.
Here is what you should do anytime your pulled over.
1) Don't admit to anything.
2) Be polite.
3) Keep your hands on the steering wheel, where they can see them.
4) Roll down your window as you pull to a stop. (Only if you have power down, if you have to crank them, wait till they come up to the window.)
5) Shut down your car if they ask. (You'll need it on to roll down the windows.)
6) Get your information when they ask for it. Keep it in one place, and make sure it's current.
7) Don't be chatty. IE: SHUT UP. Speak when spoken to is a good rule of thumb.
8) Don't argue cites. This is not the time, wait till your in court if you have to.
9) Sign the ticket.
10) Signal, wait for open traffic, and then carefully pull out into traffic. No burnouts, or risky lane changes with no signal. You don't want another ticket
5)
exander said:
Yup they do. Here there are certified cops to judge your speed visually and they are usually right on the money. When they are recognized here as one of those that can, their testimony will hold to almost anything.
I was driving down the highway at my leisurely pace of 80, going back and forth with a Jeep Grand Cherokee, passing each other.. seemed like he wanted to play some games, but I just wanted to go home.
All of the sudden, a Hyundai Sonata(?) passes me, FAST. 110 range I guessed... then kind of slows down. I have this habit of speeding up when I see someone going faster than me, so before I know it, I'm going 95.
I pull up along him, but he starts accelerating. So we have a sort of impromptu street race at 105mph (fastest my subie could go on the slight incline.. lol) and as I pass him, I notice the patch on his arm. Mass State Police officer in his own car, and he is driving like an asshole. As soon as I passed him, he cut out right behind me, then I pulled over, he passed me. I continued on, and passed him, as he'd slowed down to 75ish, he speeds up again and pulls in my lane, I pull to the right and so does he.
Luckily my exit was right there, so I ducked off...
Never did I expect an officer, never mind a state police officer to be driving with such recklessness. Sad part is I never got his plate number. Never really looked until it was too late. Would have been nice to call in a state police officer with a report of reckless driving!
All of the sudden, a Hyundai Sonata(?) passes me, FAST. 110 range I guessed... then kind of slows down. I have this habit of speeding up when I see someone going faster than me, so before I know it, I'm going 95.
I pull up along him, but he starts accelerating. So we have a sort of impromptu street race at 105mph (fastest my subie could go on the slight incline.. lol) and as I pass him, I notice the patch on his arm. Mass State Police officer in his own car, and he is driving like an asshole. As soon as I passed him, he cut out right behind me, then I pulled over, he passed me. I continued on, and passed him, as he'd slowed down to 75ish, he speeds up again and pulls in my lane, I pull to the right and so does he.
Luckily my exit was right there, so I ducked off...
Never did I expect an officer, never mind a state police officer to be driving with such recklessness. Sad part is I never got his plate number. Never really looked until it was too late. Would have been nice to call in a state police officer with a report of reckless driving!