New cool car to checkout

miekedmr

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You guys shouldn't downplay the hybrid motor. How many of you have driven a 300+ horsepower hybrid? Right.
If the electric motor going in this car is powerful enough I think you wouldn't be complaining if you drove it. If you wanted it to make cool blow off noises I'm sure you could add something for that.
Electric motors make all their torque from a stand still. Launching the car would be as simple as stomping the pedal and would whip peoples heads back. I wouldn't be surprised if they decided they needed to soften the response just to make it more tame.
If you think all the fun would be gone out of it because it wouldn't sound the same or have that familiar turbo lag, no clutch, etc., you can go stand with all the other nastolgic old people.

On the other hand, I hate the idea of having lots of traditional batteries in a car. They don't last long enough and they're difficult to dispose of. IDK that it's really worth all the complication, extra production cost, and the big battery pack that will eventually have to be tossed. Hopefully supercapacitors or advanced flywheel systems will be able to replace batteries in the future.
 

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miekedmr said:
You guys shouldn't downplay the hybrid motor. How many of you have driven a 300+ horsepower hybrid? Right.
If the electric motor going in this car is powerful enough I think you wouldn't be complaining if you drove it. If you wanted it to make cool blow off noises I'm sure you could add something for that.
Electric motors make all their torque from a stand still. Launching the car would be as simple as stomping the pedal and would whip peoples heads back. I wouldn't be surprised if they decided they needed to soften the response just to make it more tame.
If you think all the fun would be gone out of it because it wouldn't sound the same or have that familiar turbo lag, no clutch, etc., you can go stand with all the other nastolgic old people.

On the other hand, I hate the idea of having lots of traditional batteries in a car. They don't last long enough and they're difficult to dispose of. IDK that it's really worth all the complication, extra production cost, and the big battery pack that will eventually have to be tossed. Hopefully supercapacitors or advanced flywheel systems will be able to replace batteries in the future.
Yeah, I'm not too familiar with the Hybrid Synergy Drive too much, but doesnt it recharge itself when you brake or decelerate? Well what if you took it to the track or on the twisties? How would the battery fair when beat on?

I'm asking because I dont know.
 

miekedmr

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well, this is a concept car and obviously I don't have experience with it. But I can tell you what I know about Toyota's hybrid tech from the Prius.
The battery pack is charged both by regenerative braking and by direct charging from the engine. The computer that decides what mode the drivetrain is in is very smart. It's designed to charge and discharge in a way that maximizes the life of the battery pack. That might mean that after a little hard driving you lose some performance because it's reached a limit and needs to recharge, but just like the prius drivers figured out how to manipulate the system to get the best mileage, I'm sure people driving a performance variant can figure out how to get the best performance. It lets you know what mode you're in on the dash.

This explains the operation of it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_Synergy_Drive

It's just an inherent weakness of batteries that after so many cycles they're useless and you have a bunch of chemical waste to deal with, unfortunately. I think the pack in the Prius has a service life of 100-200k miles.
 
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