Ive noticed something missing in my engine bay but i havn't really though about it. Just curious, what is this?
Not my engine bay
Not my engine bay
Need help identifying this
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OK WOAH hold up...can someone please tell me why ABS is bad? is it in general or just car-specific for the supra?
i dont see how something that prevents your car from spinning out of control under emergency braking is in the least bit not good...
i dont see how something that prevents your car from spinning out of control under emergency braking is in the least bit not good...
If you do that, you might as well remove it and save some weight/gain some space.
As long as it's working properly I can personally see no reason to disable/remove the ABS. Insurance companies like it, and it's always good to have things like that in a pinch.
As long as it's working properly I can personally see no reason to disable/remove the ABS. Insurance companies like it, and it's always good to have things like that in a pinch.
UH, ABS is Bad... Why? cuz it's making driver inputs for you when you may not want it too. You only want to remove it if your an experienced driver that will drive competitively.
Here's an example:
Your drifting through a corner nicely and it's time to mash the brakes real quick for a weight transition because a turn in the other direction is near. With ABS: your car will flicker the brakes and try to stop with all the traction to the ground; no slippage. Without ABS you smash the brakes and the front end locks up, car's nose dives, and you flick wheel whilst letting off brake;smooth.
ESPECIALLY while trying to manauever your car an any type of slick road conditions like gravel or mud! Your ABS will think all the car is skidding on pavement when in reality your skimming the gravel in need of 'lockup' to bite down to the surface under the gravel that supplies your traction.
Snow is the only exception because it is so slipperey and brake lockup can be your enemy.
I had to disable my ABS in my STi before every race because of my driving style. If you drive much like you do to go to work all the time, then keep your ABS! For the sake of other drivers. because most likely your brain will tell you to slam the brakes and you will lock up all 4 wheels and go into a nasty slide... Gladly, society has become dependent it. Sadly, race enthusiasts are still using it...
-if you have never driven a car w/o ABS and you disable yours, LEARN CAREFULLY
Here's an example:
Your drifting through a corner nicely and it's time to mash the brakes real quick for a weight transition because a turn in the other direction is near. With ABS: your car will flicker the brakes and try to stop with all the traction to the ground; no slippage. Without ABS you smash the brakes and the front end locks up, car's nose dives, and you flick wheel whilst letting off brake;smooth.
ESPECIALLY while trying to manauever your car an any type of slick road conditions like gravel or mud! Your ABS will think all the car is skidding on pavement when in reality your skimming the gravel in need of 'lockup' to bite down to the surface under the gravel that supplies your traction.
Snow is the only exception because it is so slipperey and brake lockup can be your enemy.
I had to disable my ABS in my STi before every race because of my driving style. If you drive much like you do to go to work all the time, then keep your ABS! For the sake of other drivers. because most likely your brain will tell you to slam the brakes and you will lock up all 4 wheels and go into a nasty slide... Gladly, society has become dependent it. Sadly, race enthusiasts are still using it...
-if you have never driven a car w/o ABS and you disable yours, LEARN CAREFULLY
ABS sucks for any weather other then dry. No question. with dry weather and sticky tires going down a long straight and full braking right before a low speed apex at 100 mph, its a good thing to have. And snow = killer for abs. god i hate it in snowy conditions. thats is why i remove the abs unit sensor in winter time, and plug it back in summer for my subaru. edit.(i have good winter tires)
CryoSlash said:
I see where your coming from on Dry Weather Racing, but I'm gonna have to say that statements incorrect... Full on race cars are equipped with hi-performance brakes that are power assisted but still no ABS. Hi Performance Street cars like viper,ferrari, lamborghini are equipped with hi performance ABS systems that allow much more slip and have much more complex computer systems that evaluate all sorts of input and not just the driver's input. End result, you get the stopping power of non-abs while it's still there waiting for full lock-up just in case.
Pro: you can literaly feel the tires starting to lock before hand with hi-po racing brakes Con: but you can easily lock them up if you forget to PUMP THE BRAKE.
***Solution: Don't panic and slam on the brakes /or/ use ABS system to compensate for your miscalculations...
--I would use ABS on a road going built Supra for daily driving AND take out the fuse for races and impressing your friends
*im at work, just typed that really fast....
Yea, I must agree...it works OKAY in a dry pavement situation...but if the ground is wet, it doesn't really do very much, at least not in my experience, the wheels just lock like they would without ABS.