Name that suspension member!!!

[supraguy@aol]

Hey guys-
trying to do some bushing replacement, but the Energy suspension instructions
list bushings for the following:
Upper control arm (this one I know)
Lateral link
Rear toe link
Rear trailing link

NONE of these ficticious parts exists according to the TSRM, but we do have
A lower suspension arm #1, #2, and strut rod.

Would someone please tell me which arms energy suspension is attempting to refer to at points A, B and C below? And if you've already installed an ES kit, please feel free to throw in any additional information that you might think I'll need. Thanks.

 

[digihonk82]

toe link would prob be no. 1 lower suspension arm, lateral link; the no. 2 lower suspension arm and the trailing is the strut rod

 

[supraguy@aol]

Ok, thanks- I think I'm on the right path now.

 

[SideWinderGX]

Lateral link
Rear toe link
Rear trailing link

B,A,C.

I've installed the front and rears, have you taken any out? Why are you replacing them, are the bolts frozen into the bushings?

 

[supraguy@aol]

I'm just upgrading to full urethane to get rid of slop.
And my spherical bushing is toast. Guess I have to get that one from Toyota.
So far, I've only done right rear.

 

[IJ.]

A) failing killed my Mk3.....

 

[hvyman]

Damn you had jdm power folding mirrors.

Poor car. Get another. Come on you know you want to.

 

[SideWinderGX]

IJ: When was that!


supraguy: yup, spherical bearing is Toyota only. With the poly it'll feel a lot tighter, you'll be happy with it. No hints to give since you don't have to cut any of the alignment bolts out, but be SURE to clean everything good (washers, nuts and alignment bolts) so it doesn't rust down the line. That's assuming they come out, have you tried turning them?

Pushing the metal sleeves out is fun. You can do it easy with a press, but if you have a reciprocating cutter and a cheap chisel you can make do (how I did it a year or two ago).

 

[IJ.]

Damn you had jdm power folding mirrors.

Poor car. Get another. Come on you know you want to.

ADM Manual folding mirrors, and nope I don't want another, 13 years was long enough.

IJ: When was that!


supraguy: yup, spherical bearing is Toyota only. With the poly it'll feel a lot tighter, you'll be happy with it. No hints to give since you don't have to cut any of the alignment bolts out, but be SURE to clean everything good (washers, nuts and alignment bolts) so it doesn't rust down the line. That's assuming they come out, have you tried turning them?

Pushing the metal sleeves out is fun. You can do it easy with a press, but if you have a reciprocating cutter and a cheap chisel you can make do (how I did it a year or two ago).

July last year..

 

[mk3_7m]

So what do you drive now IJ ?

 

[IJ.]

Check out my thread in Members rides

 

[mk3_7m]

Alrighty then. I noticed I can't see it without logging in.

 

[SideWinderGX]

Damn...I don't follow your threads nearly as much as I should. Is that what prompted the LS motor chained to the a340e? I remember that.

Shit, sorry to hijack supraguy =X IJ., did you ever make any brake caliper brackets back in the day?

 

[supraguy@aol]

As for my camber bolts- they all turn freely.
For some reason, the inner edge of my two almost-new rear tires is TOAST.
I had a 4-wheel alignment done right after my new wheels/ tires were installed last year, and i've literally eaten through
some of the steel belt. Only on the inside 1st inch, hmm. My alignment paperwork shows the rears were set at zero toe, and
only -1 degree camber. Once I get a new set on the rear, I'm going to go back and tell them to redo it all.

 

[destrux]

Those bad "balljoints" as toyota calls them could be the cause for the tire wear too. Mine were wearing on the inside edge enough to notice in 3 weeks before I put the new joints in mine.

Only suggestion I have is to buy an air chisel/hammer with a round punch tip and an "exhaust pipe slicer" tip (it opens up exhaust pipes like a zipper from the end of the pipe). I used the round punch to knock the rubber out of the trailing arms and then used the exhaust slicer to cut the steel shell out. My 20 ton press was having none of it, and I actually bent a 1x6x4 steel press plate trying.

Oh and the air hammer makes removing the spherical joints a snap. Then you just use some sockets with a long bolt to pull them in.

 

[hvyman]

The rear most arm is for camber. Front one is for toe and the one pointing daignoly to the front is fixed.

 

[IJ.]

Damn...I don't follow your threads nearly as much as I should. Is that what prompted the LS motor chained to the a340e? I remember that.

Shit, sorry to hijack supraguy =X IJ., did you ever make any brake caliper brackets back in the day?

No the LSx/T04z was in the car at the time of the accident, I'd only done 700 Km's on the new combination when it happened.

 

[supraguy@aol]

Those bad "balljoints" as toyota calls them could be the cause for the tire wear too. Mine were wearing on the inside edge enough to notice in 3 weeks before I put the new joints in mine.

Only suggestion I have is to buy an air chisel/hammer with a round punch tip and an "exhaust pipe slicer" tip (it opens up exhaust pipes like a zipper from the end of the pipe). I used the round punch to knock the rubber out of the trailing arms and then used the exhaust slicer to cut the steel shell out. My 20 ton press was having none of it, and I actually bent a 1x6x4 steel press plate trying.

Oh and the air hammer makes removing the spherical joints a snap. Then you just use some sockets with a long bolt to pull them in.

Yeah, maybe my sphericals helped cause the tire wear.
I already replaced all of the bushings on one side, except for the spherical, and the trailing arm bushing in the hub itself. Gonna have to work on those.
My 12 ton press did a pretty good job.

 

[adampecush]

A) failing killed my Mk3.....

Poly bushings preventing intended travel path....not the first time I've seen this failure on these cars. Looks like a little more engineering was required for those bushings.