NA vs Turbo Oil Pump

[Supra_Villan]

hello, i've got a question for you all, i'll be using an na oil pump on my rebuilt motor because it is an na block and from my understanding turbo pumps don't go with na blocks due to a gearing issue, so my question is, will an na oil pump do enough on a 400-500 horspower motor? or can i buy a high flow na pump? anyone have one for sale? thanks for any feedback, charles

 

[jdub]

The turbo pump will fit fine, it's actually an upgrade for a NA motor IMO. You don't want to run a turbo w/out a turbo oil pump due to the need for a cooling circuit and the oil requirements of the turbo itself. There are no "high flow" oil pumps available that I'm aware of...the turbo pump has taller gearing to effect higher flow. Shimming the turbo pump relief valve ~5mm and installing a full flow, T-stat controlled cooler circuit will get you all the flow you'll need.

http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62838

 

[SupraN/Asty]

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/price/Toyota/MK3_Supra/Toga/Engine/Oil_Pumps
Would that be considered an after market High Volume oil pump?

 

[jdub]

Nope...basically an Ansin pump, just like stock from Toyota. "Tighter tolerances" is not going to significantly affect flow...that requires different gearing. Save your cash and get a turbo pump from Jay Marks Toyota for ~$180.

 

[SupraN/Asty]

^^^Good to know thanks for the info jdub

 

[Supra_Villan]

The turbo pump will fit fine, it's actually an upgrade for a NA motor IMO. You don't want to run a turbo w/out a turbo oil pump due to the need for a cooling circuit and the oil requirements of the turbo itself. There are no "high flow" oil pumps available that I'm aware of...the turbo pump has taller gearing to effect higher flow. Shimming the turbo pump relief valve ~5mm and installing a full flow, T-stat controlled cooler circuit will get you all the flow you'll need.

http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62838

okay cool, makes me feel better, i already have the rx7 oil cooler with a filter relocation kit, and i bought an oil t-stat that i don't even think i need(i've heard the rx7 ones have it built in?)

^^^Good to know thanks for the info jdub

ditto!:icon_bigg
jdub pulls through once again!
thanks everyone, but about the oil cooler?

 

[jdub]

The RX-7 cooler has a built-in T-stat....advance search "RX-7 cooler" with "Adjuster" for the user name. He has one

 

[Supra_Villan]

The RX-7 cooler has a built-in T-stat....advance search "RX-7 cooler" with "Adjuster" for the user name. He has one

i got one

 

[Rennat]

Why does HPF sell a "high flow" one then? And has anybody compared the flow of a turbo to ones of these so called high flow pumps?

 

[jdub]

I've compared the stock turbo pump to the TODA "high flow" side-by-side...took both apart. Everything was identical, including the gears. The TODA pump even had the "Ansin" casting stamp on the body ground off at the same spot as the one on the stock pump. The pumps are one and the same and will flow the same.

Why does HP Freaks sell the TODA pump? To aquire your $$$. For example, they also sell Venom injectors...another questionable part at best.