na cams

dumbo

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It's a downgrade, from personal experience. Put a turbo on my ge, than later put a gte intake cam in(exhaust is the same both engines). Gte is better.
 

Poodles

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Not an upgrade (really, think about this, why would Toyota have produced 2 different cams if it would have saved them money to make one?)
 

Poodles

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It will come on power faster, but fall on it's face in higher RPMs. Area under the curve is reduced meaning while it might FEEL a bit faster on the bottom end, you're slower overall...
 

IJ.

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It's a sidegrade from the dark days.....

It shifts the powerband to the left of the dyno chart spooling sooner so it gives a punchier midrange where most DD's drive but getting asthmatic on the top end.
 

deabionni

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I can't find the thread with the dyno sheets either, but if I recall correctly, the engine started falling flat on it's face around 5,000 RPM....give or take a few hundred. Basically, if you've seen a dyno sheet for the N/A and notice when the power started falling off WAY before redline; the GTE with N/A cams will start having the power fall off at the same time.

You just end up shifting the power band to the left with an N/A intake cam.
 

supra_man87

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What about doing that in reverse? Since an n/a cam is not the best for a GTE, would a turbo intake came help a n/a in higher rpms?
 

ValgeKotkas

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If it starts dying at 5k, then IMO that's anyway the last shifting point. And if no overall hp's/tq's are lost....
I guess I won't change cams when going NA-T then :)
Thanks.
 

Poodles

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Hell, if you went with a larger turbo, it's just coming online at those revs, you're just going to hurt you in the end...