N/A with oil squirters? Any benefit?

[ValgeKotkas]

Maby, cause I also want to know? Atleast I got you talking about the NA-T , so somethings rolling
I like your sig with the bear btw

 

[OneJoeZee]

That's the basic idea. My current one came with a BHG and 3 year old moisturized oil. I repaired the BHG and drove it to school for a semester. (Which is what I bought it for.) It uses more oil than a 2 stroke, and it's starting to knock until the oil pressure comes up on cold starts. Yeah, it could be more reliable. I love driving it. The car is still nice. I just want it reliable for everyday abuse and capable of long trips.

Collin

I'd say just rebuild it then with an MHG and take care of other parts and hoses that normally wear out after 20 years and you'll be fine.

My concern earlier was because it seemed like you wanted to dump a considerable amount of money just to stay NA and I know the result wouldn't be satisfactory in proportion to money spent considering the amount you've spent on your 91/2J single project and the power it will be at.

 

[NewWestSupras]

I can't see a downside to running a GTE block in n/a mode. You'd have the luxury of turboing it even easier down the road if you ever decided to go that route. Without a turbo the oil nozzles might be redundant, but its a non issue at that point.

 

[crazysupra2JZ]

justa thought, what about getting an MK2? rebuild 5M, add to your supra collection. MK2's are still nice cars, don't see much of those driving around. instead of putting a lot of money into another MK3

 

[got_boosted]

I can't see a downside to running a GTE block in n/a mode. You'd have the luxury of turboing it even easier down the road if you ever decided to go that route. Without a turbo the oil nozzles might be redundant, but its a non issue at that point.

I could run a stock turbo oil return.

Collin

 

[thechori]

Thanks. The others are too busy being children.

I'm VERY aware that there are Hondas faster than my N/A, but it's just a daily, and I'm trying to get some info.

Collin

actually, my N/A has taken out a few hondas, i bearly got pulled by a civic hatch spraying (from a dig as well) :0

 

[Mr.PFloyd]

Turbo A's don't have oil squirters. they are not important as the oil should be staying where it is supposed to be, at the crank lubricating the bearings.

 

[got_boosted]

actually, my N/A has taken out a few hondas, i bearly got pulled by a civic hatch spraying (from a dig as well) :0

My N/A is far from running correctly with the amount of blow-by and burning oil. I'm sure it will be quicker with a fresh engine, but that's not my goal in doing this as this is just my daily. I've got my 2JZ 91T for when I feel like frying rice.

Turbo A's don't have oil squirters. they are not important as the oil should be staying where it is supposed to be, at the crank lubricating the bearings.

Good info! Thanks!

Collin

 

[Jeff Lange]

Turbo A's don't have oil squirters. they are not important as the oil should be staying where it is supposed to be, at the crank lubricating the bearings.

Where did you hear this? I just looked up the blocks in the catalog, and the Turbo A and regular JDM 7M-GTEU have the same blocks, and the squirters are listed for all the 7M-GTEU's.

Just curious.

(Unless you meant Group A)

 

[got_boosted]

Where did you hear this? I just looked up the blocks in the catalog, and the Turbo A and regular JDM 7M-GTEU have the same blocks, and the squirters are listed for all the 7M-GTEU's.

Just curious.

(Unless you meant Group A)

Hey, Jeff, since you're in on this, what do you think of an N/A with oil squirters? Pointless?

Collin

 

[tissimo]

It's a fucking daily driver, and I'm going for reliability... Thanks, assholes. I figured that posting over here on SM would get me some useful and intelligent information, but so far it's nothing but BS. The FIRST reply on SF was serious and helpful.

Building the N/A has NOTHING to do with more power, just reliablity. The MHG and oil squirters would be in case I felt like turboing it in the future.

Collin

:rofl:

 

[IJ.]

Collin: If you do it make sure you swap in a GTE Oil pump as well as the squirters will cause a pressure/volume drop when open that the NA pump may not be able to keep up with.

 

[Larry_A]

Collin: If you do it make sure you swap in a GTE Oil pump as well as the squirters will cause a pressure/volume drop when open that the NA pump may not be able to keep up with.

Hello Ian,
There are two [2] sources of oil pressure loss, the squirters & the bypass to the cooler. Since the NA doesn't have the by-pass/cooler to deal with, he may get by on the NA oil pump as long as pressures are in-spec for the GTE eng.....but it's def a lot work to get to after it's all together! Dunno, there are def two [2] different oil pump part #s, though.

 

[IJ.]

Hey Larry,

Sorry didn't realise that as our NA's have the bypass cooler.

GTE Pump has a longer gear set for more volume per revolution I used them in my NA's.

 

[Poodles]

The oil squirters are to cool the pistons, not needed on Group-A cars because the pistons are forged...

It's up to you, if you're SERIOUSLY going to consider turboing it, I'd use the GTE block. You'd have the oil return and feed for the turbo, could loop the lines for the turbo coolant lines, you'd also have two spots for the knock sensors...

Also, look at the blocks. The early style isn't as strong as the late style...

 

[got_boosted]

I have an early style GTE block, and both my GE's are early style.

Collin

 

[Poodles]

well, then do what you want, but having a stock oil return, ect...

 

[zurud]

I think an NA with oil is pointless.You don't need them but if you want to there is no harm in using them. If it will make you happy do it.