My stealth charcoal canister install *PICS*

arknotts

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BlackDevilSupra;1609819 said:
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You can get all kinds of check valves from Check Valves @ McMaster-carr

Don't worry about the 1.5psi cracking pressure, because the intake vacuum will crack it open.

Keep in mind, I'm just venting to atmosphere because I have no ported vacuum source on my FFIM. I'm guessing Toyota made it that way stock so it wouldn't affect idle quality. The check valve is just to keep ~2 psi pressure in the tank like stock. Thanks for the McMaster link, I didn't think to check their site and they are about an hour from my house!
 

destrux

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The other problem with eliminating the canister is that the fuel tank emits vapors when the car is parked. Ever see a plastic gas can sitting in the sun that swelled up from the pressure? Don't want your fuel tank doing that, or shooting vapors into the intake manifold (which would backflow out through the air filter since the vapors can't go anywhere).

Nothing wrong with getting a junk yard canister and mirroring the OE hookup though. That's what I'm doing to save weight.

I don't see the fuel vapors coming out of the vent line presenting a huge fire hazard though... older cars vented the tank to the air (usually through the filler neck or cap). So do lawnmowers, and they vent it a few inches from the hot exhaust and cylinder cooling fins. I would avoid venting it into an enclosed space like a canister (or under the hood) though, if you do plan to vent to the air. Vapors are very hard to ignite at low concentrations... but when they're concentrated they will catch fire very easily.
 

suprarx7nut

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destrux;1684780 said:
The other problem with eliminating the canister is that the fuel tank emits vapors when the car is parked. Ever see a plastic gas can sitting in the sun that swelled up from the pressure? Don't want your fuel tank doing that, or shooting vapors into the intake manifold (which would backflow out through the air filter since the vapors can't go anywhere).

Nothing wrong with getting a junk yard canister and mirroring the OE hookup though. That's what I'm doing to save weight.

I don't see the fuel vapors coming out of the vent line presenting a huge fire hazard though... older cars vented the tank to the air (usually through the filler neck or cap). So do lawnmowers, and they vent it a few inches from the hot exhaust and cylinder cooling fins. I would avoid venting it into an enclosed space like a canister (or under the hood) though, if you do plan to vent to the air. Vapors are very hard to ignite at low concentrations... but when they're concentrated they will catch fire very easily.

Was that a typo or are you really concerned with 1-3 lbs in a ~3500 lb car?
 

Smartparts

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I had a problem with the purge valve on my daily, Audi A4. It works similarly but the valve on the a4 is electronic. It works by opening in 1 second intervals at highway speeds. My purge valve was stuck open so it was constantly pulling a vacuum to the gas tank. EVERY time I would go to the gas station to fill up, it would be very hard to start. It would crank over for a long time and would only start when I gave it gas. It would idle rough for 3 seconds and then I would not have the hard start problem again untill I filled up again. I never top off. I always stop fueling when it auto stops.

I solve this problem by disconnecting and plugging the line going to the charcoal canister from the intake. Well that was more of a diagnosis of the problem, I determined it was the valve by doing that. My supra wont have the charcoal canister reinstalled.

Video of my audi not starting at the gas station.[video=youtube;LTG8Dt6QdaE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTG8Dt6QdaE[/video]