Factory cooler is tiny Dave, no way is it going to flow the volume needed for high engine speeds (above idle)
My Oil cooler Set-up - Opinions Please
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So does anyone have a link for the good push-lok hose to use for the oil cooler setup? I can't seem to find anything that does over 275F
IJ.;1500727 said:
Sorry, the car is in storage right now so I can't check it, but the stock cooler lines are what approximate line size -6/-8? I know the cooler is small in terms of area, but I never really looked at if it could flow the oil necessary or not.
supradjza80;1500749 said:
The lines are close to -6 and the cooler ports closer to -5, it's only ever meant to be a bypass cooler.
supradjza80;1500752 said:
Very welcome!
I'm looking at adding a 2nd cooler into mine but am undecided if I'll run it Parallel or in Series.
Nghty89;1500744 said:
Im using this black (even though the picture is blue this is black hose) and -08 size, http://www.summitracing.com/parts/AER-FCN0820/ In my oil system. Its rated to 300F and 250PSI. No issues so far.
nosechunks;1501251 said:
No :naughty: ....... I found some that go to 310 F but the hose is yellow :aigo:.
I can't even find the hose that JDub recommended 350F :cry:...
Well if you think of it this way the braided lines that everyone uses for the turbo feed and drain are subject to possibly the hottest oil in the vehicle, Draining from a 1000F+ turbo cartridge. That hose is rated to 300F. So im not worried about my cooler circuit flowing oil thats been sitting in the pan.
nosechunks;1501364 said:
Braided rubber WILL fail as a drain ask how I know....
Braided Teflon is another matter.
We also make a oil cooler kit with the thermostat built in and it has 2 addtional ports to install the oil temp and oil pressure senders that you need..
http://prosportgauges.com/search.aspx?find=oil+cooler
http://prosportgauges.com/search.aspx?find=oil+cooler
Your oil should NOT get to 300°F, if it does you have serious issues and the oil's life has been drastically reduced. I read somewhere that for every 10°F over 220°F the oil life is effectively cut in half. (That's for dino oil, not synthetics. Synthetics are more heat tolerant but still can have it's life reduced by overheating) Now if that's a fact or not, I don't know because I've never seen a decent chart for this and probably for good reason, because every oil is different. Suffice it to say that once your oil starts going over 200°-210°F it is not a "good thing" and the more over that you go the less good it is.
I did manage to find this chart on "engine life" (define that how you will) here: http://www.elephantracing.com/techtopic/oiltemperature.htm
Keep in mind that these guys are trying to sell oil coolers on this page, not that it's a bad thing.
As for a source for the hose, Speedway stocks and sells the Aeroquip Blue Hose in sizes up to -12 along with the fittings. This hose is rated at a working pressure of 250 psi, burst pressure of 1,000 psi, and an operating temperature of -40°F- 300°F, more than adequate for the job at hand.
http://www.speedwaymotors.com They may not be the cheapest but their service is beyond compare.
Although these are socketless and no clamp required, I always try to use a good fuel injection clamp. I know I don't need it but it gives me a warm fuzzy feeling (just don't overtighten it).
John Stricker
Russell, KS
I did manage to find this chart on "engine life" (define that how you will) here: http://www.elephantracing.com/techtopic/oiltemperature.htm
Keep in mind that these guys are trying to sell oil coolers on this page, not that it's a bad thing.
As for a source for the hose, Speedway stocks and sells the Aeroquip Blue Hose in sizes up to -12 along with the fittings. This hose is rated at a working pressure of 250 psi, burst pressure of 1,000 psi, and an operating temperature of -40°F- 300°F, more than adequate for the job at hand.
http://www.speedwaymotors.com They may not be the cheapest but their service is beyond compare.
Although these are socketless and no clamp required, I always try to use a good fuel injection clamp. I know I don't need it but it gives me a warm fuzzy feeling (just don't overtighten it).
John Stricker
Russell, KS
jstricker;1692048 said:Your oil should NOT get to 300°F, if it does you have serious issues and the oil's life has been drastically reduced. I read somewhere that for every 10°F over 220°F the oil life is effectively cut in half. (That's for dino oil, not synthetics. Synthetics are more heat tolerant but still can have it's life reduced by overheating) Now if that's a fact or not, I don't know because I've never seen a decent chart for this and probably for good reason, because every oil is different. Suffice it to say that once your oil starts going over 200°-210°F it is not a "good thing" and the more over that you go the less good it is.
I did manage to find this chart on "engine life" (define that how you will) here: http://www.elephantracing.com/techtopic/oiltemperature.htm
Keep in mind that these guys are trying to sell oil coolers on this page, not that it's a bad thing.
As for a source for the hose, Speedway stocks and sells the Aeroquip Blue Hose in sizes up to -12 along with the fittings. This hose is rated at a working pressure of 250 psi, burst pressure of 1,000 psi, and an operating temperature of -40°F- 300°F, more than adequate for the job at hand.
http://www.speedwaymotors.com They may not be the cheapest but their service is beyond compare.
Although these are socketless and no clamp required, I always try to use a good fuel injection clamp. I know I don't need it but it gives me a warm fuzzy feeling (just don't overtighten it).
John Stricker
Russell, KS
A LOT of aftermarket installs don't run a steel extension tube on the Turbo so the Drain is subjected to much higher temps than that hose is rated for, just a word of warning to people reading this.
IJ.;1692215 said:
That is a good point but I wasn't considering using this as the turbo drain, only for the oil cooler/filter relocation setup. Your post does bring up something else to consider. You're not just concerned with the temp of the oil but also the surroundings. Most hose will also have an ambient working temperature, that is the temperature of the air surrounding the hose on the OUTSIDE. In the case of the Aeroquip blue, that is 250°. Given the location, a piece of aluminum fabbed as a heat shield covering this area might not be a bad investment. That said, 250° air temperature is HOT. Damn HOT. Any space away from the exhaust area will markedly lower those temps and remember, heat rises so that is a help as well.
John Stricker
Russell, KS