Curious to see if anyone on here has used one of these before... one of my brother's friends bought a 500 Persuader (pistol grip, short barrel) at a gun show locally, seemed like a nice gun, but never got to shoot it myself.
I can't imagine the Saiga is at all cheap... Not looking for "cheap", just don't want to pay out the ass for something that if I'm lucky, won't need to be used for more than entertainment. Part of the appeal of the pump design is the sound that chambering a round makes. Hell, if that's not enough to scare off a potential intruder, I don't know what would be.makaveli913;1781945 said:i used to have one. worked real good reliable. 3inch slugs were mean. pistol grip was real skinny near the top and would hurt to hold there. learn to hold botom of grip n was more comfortable to shoot. pump action was kinda wobbly. done with pumps moved up to semi auto. Saiga 12 funnest shotgun ever. got a folding stock n 20 round drum. drum dump is almost better than sex. lol
Why do you say that? I've learned to go with the recoil rather than try to stop it... nearly dislocating a shoulder is enough of a reason to learn that lesson.gaboonviper85;1782244 said:mossy has a better safety location as well as the pump lock....also pistol grip is rather retarded on a shotgun without a stock
MDCmotorsports;1781810 said:As for the Maverick 88: Not a bad piece, pretty reliable. NILL AFTERMARKET support at this time.
Poodles;1782570 said:Most parts for a 500 work.
te72: It looks like you're wanting this for a "toy." That's not a bad thing, just saying if that's the case you're probably better off with a normal stock as it makes target practice easier. Really depends on what you want it for...
Toy, potential defense situation, etc...Poodles;1782570 said:te72: It looks like you're wanting this for a "toy." That's not a bad thing, just saying if that's the case you're probably better off with a normal stock as it makes target practice easier. Really depends on what you want it for...
Eh, I'd only hunt with a bow anyway. Never found much sport in sniping those rascally deer...gaboonviper85;1782571 said:toy is a perfect way to describe a stockless shot gun...and like you said "thats not a bad thing" but its a horrid choice for a defense, target, and hunting.
This describes my house pretty well, it's mostly a hallway. Do expect to need fire it inside my house? Not really, home invasions around here are about as likely as minorities, being that the vast majority of people who live here are gun owners... seems kinda foolish to even try. Would I need to shoot twice? Not likely.Poodles;1782573 said:Depends, short pistol grip only shotgun is great for old houses with narrow hallways. Then again, when you have stuff like the Kel-Tec KSG (man I want one...), it's moot point.
Yes, I understand that you need to aim shotguns, I've grown up around guns. Been a while since I've gotten to shoot, but I don't often miss once I get a gun figured out. Again, I wouldn't expect to ever NEED to use it, but given the layout of my house, I would prefer something maneuverable. Could I do with a stock? Sure, but do I prefer one? Not really... I could just as easily do with a .38 or .45 of some sort, but I don't particularly want something with such a high penetration rate, and to me, shotguns are just more fun overall in the 99.99% of other situations I would be using it for.gaboonviper85;1782555 said:Because contrary to belief one must aim a shot gun and not everyone can manage the recoil of a stockless shotgun with just hands alone...it's a great way to have a 8 pound gun hammer your face in which would not help a life or death situation at all!!! It's just a retarded design considering there are folding and collapsible stocks for all these weapons. Also I'd really really like to see someone do rapid fallow up shots without a stock...you will never see a stockless shot gun in a 3 gun, trap, skeet, duck hunt, or any shooting sporting event!! The design just doesn't work...