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Jeff Lange said:
Most likely, especially with taxes based on engine size, etc in Japan. A note: the 7M-GE wasn't sold in the Supra in Japan, only outside of Japan, people in Japan would rather have a 2.0L Turbo engine with the same power than a 3.0L N/A engine... costs them less. Same thing wouldn't have worked at all in North America.
Damn right - we don't care about wasting gas - we want more displacement and torque!
 

encomiast

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Jeff Lange said:
Most likely, especially with taxes based on engine size, etc in Japan. A note: the 7M-GE wasn't sold in the Supra in Japan, only outside of Japan, people in Japan would rather have a 2.0L Turbo engine with the same power than a 3.0L N/A engine... costs them less. Same thing wouldn't have worked at all in North America.
hmm.... too bad they didn't sell the smaller engines (at least the 1JZ) in other countries that also have taxes based on displacement...
 

SupraMario

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encomiast said:
hmm.... too bad they didn't sell the smaller engines (at least the 1JZ) in other countries that also have taxes based on displacement...

hey they dont do taxes on displacement in germany do they?
 

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D34DC311 said:
hey they dont do taxes on displacement in germany do they?
Oh yes, they do :(
You pay for each 100cc, how much it is depends on the "smog rating" (can you say that?) of the car.
This and the taxes on gas are the reasons why Germany is the country of the econoboxes :madfawk:

The 3 liter N/A Supra was a really slow seller compared to the turbo model since it had the same displacement but had a worse smog rating (no precat) and was therefore quite expensive in the long run.
That's probably why they discontinued the nonturbo over here in 87 or 88 or so - nobody would buy it.
For a 7M-GTE Supra, it's currently 453 EUR a year, the tax increases every couple of years. If you have a 7M-GE Supra (which had no precat in Germany), it's a whopping 632 EUR (~760 US-$).
Currently there are 10 times more turbo MKIIIs registered in Germany than nonturbos (about 3.000 vs. 300).
 

SupraMario

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encomiast said:
Oh yes, they do :(
You pay for each 100cc, how much it is depends on the "smog rating" (can you say that?) of the car.
This and the taxes on gas are the reasons why Germany is the country of the econoboxes :madfawk:

The 3 liter N/A Supra was a really slow seller compared to the turbo model since it had the same displacement but had a worse smog rating (no precat) and was therefore quite expensive in the long run.
That's probably why they discontinued the nonturbo over here in 87 or 88 or so - nobody would buy it.
For a 7M-GTE Supra, it's currently 453 EUR a year, the tax increases every couple of years. If you have a 7M-GE Supra (which had no precat in Germany), it's a whopping 632 EUR (~760 US-$).
Currently there are 10 times more turbo MKIIIs registered in Germany than nonturbos (about 3.000 vs. 300).

well looks like im screwed if i bring the 2jz over there. 3000cc well 2997cc what would that cost lol
 

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D34DC311 said:
well looks like im screwed if i bring the 2jz over there. 3000cc well 2997cc what would that cost lol
Probably the same as the 7M-GTE, which I quoted above.
But apart from that, I don't think you'd ever get to register a MKIII with a 2JZ-GTE since that would require your car to pass inspection every two years. But as this configuration was never sold in Germany (as well as in the rest of the world, obviously) and since it is unknown if the chassis and the brakes and the suspension would hold the power, and how much noise it would make in a MKIII chassis with the exhaust you will be using, etc.etc.etc., you are very likely to fail that inspection unless you spend some big cash for having every part approved individually. It's not like in the states (at least in most states if I'm not mistaken) where you can just bolt any parts to the car and be fine. You need certificates specifically for your car (mostly) from the respective vendors for everything that might affect the power or the sound or the handling or braking or the crash characteristics of the car. This goes even for rims or spoilers or steering wheels.
The authorities are VERY anal about modifications.

But we're way off topic here :p