Megan coilovers?

[Grimsta]

Well my Megans have suited my drifting needs for now. I really like them, I don't daily drive on them. I too am building a NASA Time Attack Supra with a 3000/sub 3000 target weight. The Megans really werent my target suspension, but I needed something better than Bilsteins and TRD Springs and they've worked great for me so far. We'll see how they handle the Time Trials. I too was looking to build my own setup like your Bilsteins. Not the GB ones, YOURS. It didnt look like anything was available for a Supra (but I guess you just fabbed the top mounts, lol. I shoulda thought of that) so I moved on. But i'll probably go back. Just gotta see how the Megans handle an actual race. They're good for drifting but we'll see how they are on the track.

And i WON"T be using delrin bushings

 

[Wiisass]

In my opinion, a drifting and a road racing suspension should be pretty similar. But from experience, you can get away with a lot more while drifting versus road racing. Meaning a non-ideal damper can work alright for drifting especially at the non-pro level. I'm hoping to see some more FD drivers stepping up to real dampers and will hopefully have my hand in at least a couple of the setups.

And I am selling my setup as well. And the top mounts where the easy part of the setup. The parts designed for the upper and lower mounts were simple compared to doing the valving from scratch. The valving that I'm using is unlike anything that Bilstein offers as a standard valving.

Well see how the Megans are at first and then I can help you get a better setup on the car when you feel that the suspension is holding you back.

Tim

 

[CyFi6]

Well something sounds weird. The front spring/damper move less than the rear with the same amount of wheel travel. Are the right springs on the right end of the car?

What do you mean dead coils? You could use helper springs but you might have to get a shorter main spring or if there's room you can just lower the perch and add the helper and intermediate spring seat.

People have run cars with "negative preload" or non-captive springs. If you aren't lifting up wheels during driving then the spring should stay seated. And depending on perch and hat design, the spring could be forced back into the proper position if a wheel does lift, but sometimes it can cause some damage if the hat doesn't align itself properly when the spring tries to get back in its seat.

Tim

I assume the right ones are on the front because the coils are thicker for the extra weight. And what i mean by dead coilsis just a spring that doesnt have barely any tension on it, just to fill the empty space so the spring doesnt float, because i have about an inch of space to move the spring perch on the rears.

When i raise the car off the ground the fronts fender gaps are much larger than the rears which tells me the front springs are compressing more than the rears are with load on them, dont know why this is. If people could get pictures of their megans on the car with the wheel off it would be great so i could compare a little bit. BTW im on the stock tire and wheel setup.

 

[Grimsta]

In my opinion, a drifting and a road racing suspension should be pretty similar. But from experience, you can get away with a lot more while drifting versus road racing. Meaning a non-ideal damper can work alright for drifting especially at the non-pro level. I'm hoping to see some more FD drivers stepping up to real dampers and will hopefully have my hand in at least a couple of the setups.

And I am selling my setup as well. And the top mounts where the easy part of the setup. The parts designed for the upper and lower mounts were simple compared to doing the valving from scratch. The valving that I'm using is unlike anything that Bilstein offers as a standard valving.

Well see how the Megans are at first and then I can help you get a better setup on the car when you feel that the suspension is holding you back.

Tim

Definately, thats why people can drift on Ksport crap, UGH! I wasn't planning on using standard bilstein valving either. I dont use standard nuthin!

 

[Wiisass]

For standard valving, I didn't mean the valving that comes in their off the shelf supra damper. I meant the standard shim stacks that they specify and sell for their motorsports dampers. I'm using an assortment of shims that I put together after many hours calculating what damping was needed and then more hours on the dyno.

Tim

 

[Grimsta]

Yeah, I knew what you meant

 

[CyFi6]

Im having some more issues with my Megans i was wondering if you guys had the same things. My front suspension seems way too soft in comparison to the rear. Even with the very large coil springs in the front the cars suspension is MUCH softer in front. If i go over a speed bump or any considerable dip strait on, the car wants to bottom out on front, whereas the rear will just kind of jump over and not compress very much. I have to literally inch over a speedbump if im going strait over it or it'll compress the front suspension so much that it bottoms out. Im not sure if the car is hitting the ground or if the springs are binding.

I took my car to an auto cross and it performed terribly. As expected with soft front and stiff rear, all it wanted to do was slide out. No matter how i drove it the rear wanted to slide on all the sweeper like turns. Anyone else have anything to say about all this?

 

[935motorsports]

Im having some more issues with my Megans

You might want to return them under warranty if you think there is a problem. Althought it is unlikely, there is a possibility that the shocks were somehow switched. Meaning that you have the front shocks w/ rear springs on the rear, etc. You could try to switch them around and see if that helps.

Just make sure you get them in for warranty before the warranty expires. If they were purchased through 935, we can arrange an up front exchange service so that you don't have any down time.

 

[CyFi6]

i bought them from an individual so no warranty. I just know nothing about them or how they are supposed to be so i need something to compare to.

 

[Wiisass]

Something still doesn't sound right about your suspension. You were having weird issues with it before as well. I think you need to pull everything apart, figure out which springs are which, check the dampers and then put everything back together. I would hope the dampers themselves were different front to rear. Rear needs more travel than the front due to geometry. But I think that is your best bet unless you can get Megan to let you send them back. Try calling them directly and finding out if you have any options. If not, then do what I said at first.

Tim

 

[Grimsta]

Yeah, my fronts are very hard indeed. I'm sure you put the fronts in the rear and vice versa, lol.

I ran THunderhill in February w/ the Megans and they worked great for me. I was able to pitch it hard in the turns w/ no body roll or picking up a tire. I could definately tell be the howl my tires were the limiting factor. Nitto 555s are good, but not Time Attack good, lol.

 

[gravesdu_99]

Your setup might be great Tim, but I have not used your setup. Care to send me a free set? Until then I won't know

The setups I have used are:

Stock
Tokico blue / eibach
Tokico illumina / eibach
Bilstein / eibach
Bilstein / stock
Koni / eibach
Koni / gc (1000lb front / 650lb rear)
JIC non adjustable coilovers

As far as daily driving goes, the bilstein / stock or bilstein / intrax was a decent setup for daily driving.

So for the best ride quality you would chose the bilstein/intrax, just wondering why when you don't have the intrax listed, just the eibach. I was planning on buying some tein SS, but this thread has really changed my opion. I have a 93 honda that is slammed on some stock 50 series wheels and it still rides like shit. I figured with the bigger side wall I would get some better ride quality, but it doesn't make up for it. I really don't want my supra to ride so ruff. I want to drop it a little and tighten it up just a little, but keep the ride nice for long trips.

 

[Poodles]

how did you lower the honda?

 

[Grimsta]

/\/\ Not on Ksports is it

 

[gravesdu_99]

No it was cheaper than that. I had some Ractive sleeve coilovers 0-4. And then I bought some Kyb shocks. I only had about $600 in it total.

 

[Grimsta]

NAAAWWWW!! Lol, thats an alright combo on lighter cars not very suitable for Supras though. My G20 has GR-2s on Eibachs and that thing hugs corners like a mofo, even with crappy tires!

 

[935motorsports]

BTW the guy on ebay is selling for 900 shipped, which is the correct "minimum" price.

Wii, when you are ready I should be able to get you a set of fronts for testing over the summer. I would prefer if you used them personally before calling them crap.

 

[Grimsta]

Ran another drift on them & my drifting is getting much better. Not good enough to win, but definately alot better. I found with my setup the rears work good on 8, fronts on 1. When I road race or autoX both on 1.
If I drift with the rears on 1 theres too much traction and I cant hold a slide