http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=431_1232680237
I COULDN'T believe my eyes about this. I was hoping it was fake :cry:
I COULDN'T believe my eyes about this. I was hoping it was fake :cry:
Kitty :'(
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I've heard about this, a friend of mine is advocating to get it stopped.
It's a French-controlled island, Reunion Island.
Anyway, they take cats and dogs from the local humane shelters, since they are overwhelmed with strays on this island. They then proceed to stab large fishing hooks through the noses and front paws of these animals, and drag them through the ocean as shark bait. THE CATS AND DOGS ARE STILL ALIVE THROUGH ALL OF THIS!!!
As soon as I find the information I have on getting this stopped, I will post it here. I'm not a huge fan of cats, but this is beyond cruelty.
It's a French-controlled island, Reunion Island.
Anyway, they take cats and dogs from the local humane shelters, since they are overwhelmed with strays on this island. They then proceed to stab large fishing hooks through the noses and front paws of these animals, and drag them through the ocean as shark bait. THE CATS AND DOGS ARE STILL ALIVE THROUGH ALL OF THIS!!!
As soon as I find the information I have on getting this stopped, I will post it here. I'm not a huge fan of cats, but this is beyond cruelty.
that is so fuckin wrong they should hang those fucking fisherman by the back of their necks from a hook uh!
Found it: http://www.experienceproject.com/petitions/Stop-Using-Live-Dogs-As-Shark-Bait/1853815378?r=vd
There is also a petition/group going around FaceBook for this, here is a link to the site there, as well: http://www.facebook.com/groups.php?ref=sb#/group.php?gid=34948192471
There is also a petition/group going around FaceBook for this, here is a link to the site there, as well: http://www.facebook.com/groups.php?ref=sb#/group.php?gid=34948192471
Guys. Please.
Kittens in a bait bucket? Are you seriously buying this crap?
If you got to the website, the first organization that gets a portion of the profits is PETA. That in and of itself should get you to question this. PETA has proven themselves to be a completely unethical organization and has performed many sensational (and just as dishonest) stunts like this one.
Then when it mentions that "Gobal Warming" is causing cat overpopulation, that should have been another clue.
The hooks that are supposedly "attached" to the kittens used are too small for Marlin or Shark.
Just look at the reaction here. Now think about this. You run a boat. You use kittens for bait. What's going to happen when people show up at your dock? You've probably got a better than 50% chance each and every day of getting your ass kicked or your boat sunk.
Guys, please learn to look at what you see with a critical eye.
This is a publicity stunt, nothing more.
And as for anonymous online petitions, I'll guarantee I could create one asking people to sign on for "stopping Doward from eating cheese and farting in public" and I could get a couple of hundred signatures by posting it on /b/ on 4 chan and asking them to help me "prove a point".
Have people used live animals for bait? Sure they have. In any culture where you eat dogs and cats, I doubt there would be the social stigma that it has in our culture. But to imply that "rich Americans" are doing this? There's an obvious social/political goal here, and the truth ain't it...
Kittens in a bait bucket? Are you seriously buying this crap?
If you got to the website, the first organization that gets a portion of the profits is PETA. That in and of itself should get you to question this. PETA has proven themselves to be a completely unethical organization and has performed many sensational (and just as dishonest) stunts like this one.
Then when it mentions that "Gobal Warming" is causing cat overpopulation, that should have been another clue.
The hooks that are supposedly "attached" to the kittens used are too small for Marlin or Shark.
Just look at the reaction here. Now think about this. You run a boat. You use kittens for bait. What's going to happen when people show up at your dock? You've probably got a better than 50% chance each and every day of getting your ass kicked or your boat sunk.
Guys, please learn to look at what you see with a critical eye.
This is a publicity stunt, nothing more.
And as for anonymous online petitions, I'll guarantee I could create one asking people to sign on for "stopping Doward from eating cheese and farting in public" and I could get a couple of hundred signatures by posting it on /b/ on 4 chan and asking them to help me "prove a point".
Have people used live animals for bait? Sure they have. In any culture where you eat dogs and cats, I doubt there would be the social stigma that it has in our culture. But to imply that "rich Americans" are doing this? There's an obvious social/political goal here, and the truth ain't it...
I too, call BS. They don't even show the cats being actually hooked through the skin, anyway. When they do show something close to it, the cat doesn't even flinch. My bet is that it's all about the camera angles, and not revealing how the cats are actually held to the lines.
even still cats hate water did you see it shivering when they pulled it up. i also noticed it didnt flinch w/ the hook but i dont think they have much feeling bakc their . there mothers cary them around by the scruff with their teeth and that dosnt seem to bother them a bit .
If you think about it(even if it was real) how is this any more cruel than throwing a live worm on a hook and fishing in the river? I swear those humane society people get all up in arms ONLY if the animals/living things make cute sounds. Plus those "quotes" do sound a little outlandish. as in the overpopulation of cats due to global warming. that actually made me laugh
87tomanymods;1231574 said:
When a mother cat carries a kitten, she pinches the neck.
Now, try this experiment at home:
Pinch your own cheek about has hard as you'd have to in order to hold a kitten by the scruff of the neck. Wow, not painful huh?
Next, drive a large gauge big game fish fishhook through your cheek, then suspend yourself by it.
Let me know how that works out for you.
Isphius;1231576 said:
You honestly can't compare a worm to a higher mammal. While I do agree with your overall sentiment, there's a difference between torturing a kitten and a worm.
What the real point of this is, is that people are easily manipulated. I wonder how many suckers have funded PETA's moronic nonsense because they saw this and swallowed it hook, line and sinker (pun intended).
I really should just become a scam artist. People are so easy to manipulate it's not even funny... I've just got this damned thing called "ethics" that holds me back...
Proven fake by many a person.
http://2coolfishing.com/ttmbforum/showthread.php?t=194444
http://www.saveourcatsfromfishermen.com/
The website is fuckin bogus as well. Hardly any information at all. Another fundraiser for PETA.
http://2coolfishing.com/ttmbforum/showthread.php?t=194444
http://www.saveourcatsfromfishermen.com/
The website is fuckin bogus as well. Hardly any information at all. Another fundraiser for PETA.
Fuzz420
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I call BS as well... at least when it comes to this video.
When you see the kitty paddling around in the water (I guess that big hook in its neck doesn't affect it's swimming capabilities at all), it looks like the hook is attached to a collar. And even before that, the close up of the bad guys 'hooking up' the kitty... went thru its skin pretty easily, no flinching or screaming... no blood either.
You also never see those fishermen in the video with the cats themselves or fishing with the cats in the first place.
Whoever put the cat into the water, filmed it and then mixed it up with existing fishing vids to create this thing needs to get a hobby... and sued. He should have also read up on how people that use dogs and cats as bait actually do it:
Obviously not saying things like that don't happen but this vid is BS.
When you see the kitty paddling around in the water (I guess that big hook in its neck doesn't affect it's swimming capabilities at all), it looks like the hook is attached to a collar. And even before that, the close up of the bad guys 'hooking up' the kitty... went thru its skin pretty easily, no flinching or screaming... no blood either.
You also never see those fishermen in the video with the cats themselves or fishing with the cats in the first place.
Whoever put the cat into the water, filmed it and then mixed it up with existing fishing vids to create this thing needs to get a hobby... and sued. He should have also read up on how people that use dogs and cats as bait actually do it:
Obviously not saying things like that don't happen but this vid is BS.
Well, I can be honest here..................
I never even read the stuff my friend sent me....I just dumped it in the folder of crap she sends me on a daily basis (most dealing with animal cruelty and such) and forgot about it. When I saw this thread, I posted what I had, and the little info I had gotten from reading the Facebook "site"
So I can say I feel rather stupid for posting up info that I myself had not even read
I never even read the stuff my friend sent me....I just dumped it in the folder of crap she sends me on a daily basis (most dealing with animal cruelty and such) and forgot about it. When I saw this thread, I posted what I had, and the little info I had gotten from reading the Facebook "site"
So I can say I feel rather stupid for posting up info that I myself had not even read
Oh, by the way, click on their "buy now link" and you'll get the following (emphasis mine):
"We are a for-profit Florida Corporation. We are promoting awareness of animal abuse and our donations to these four established charities will be used as the individual organizations choose."
In other words. We're turning a profit on this. We're "donating" an undisclosed amount to each of these 4 "charities". $1 to each would be enough to meet the letter of the law.
This is a scam artist, exploiting people's heartstrings.
Lame.
"We are a for-profit Florida Corporation. We are promoting awareness of animal abuse and our donations to these four established charities will be used as the individual organizations choose."
In other words. We're turning a profit on this. We're "donating" an undisclosed amount to each of these 4 "charities". $1 to each would be enough to meet the letter of the law.
This is a scam artist, exploiting people's heartstrings.
Lame.
i did some reserch and they dont have any nerves on the scruff (back of neck) .so it would be possible to put a hook through with out the cat reacting .they simply cant feel it . its like poking cristopher reves legs with a stick no feeling. im still not saying that vid is real but it debunks that part.
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