kinda uninformed questions.... aka newb city

urbanpsycho

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May 20, 2006
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I know the alternator is bad.. had it checked by a shop. The ECU I'm not so sure about.
In fact, I'm going to start a new thread on this... dont' wanna take this one over ;)
 

NexiusEvaro

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May 3, 2006
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Blgs, Milky Way
mcpcola said:
BTW I know of a good turbo motor in a 88 front clip for 800 with in driving distance.

that would be phenomenal... was thinking i want an 86 na/t (that front lower grill just screams for an ic with that (IMO better) =P lookin nose but the likelihood of finding a clip to do it would be pretty damn hard to find... that and anyone else around the barn to help....

very very cool of ya to offer to help as well...

making my day a lot better despite the crazy gnat fest in blgs that actually managed to make it into my eye ....

pm me anytime - be great to meet yas
 

NexiusEvaro

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May 3, 2006
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urbanpsycho said:
I know the alternator is bad.. had it checked by a shop. The ECU I'm not so sure about.
In fact, I'm going to start a new thread on this... dont' wanna take this one over ;)


More than welcome to hang out here - most of this has been a rehash of the stuff these guys have been going over and over anyway...

call it a billings repair thread or something (perhaps we the "official" newb city this month!):icon_razz

regards,

nex
 
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jazzsaxman1988

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May 6, 2006
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Fuzz420 said:
any 7mge motor will do even from the cressida.

While this is generally true, the only things that are the same are the block, internal components (minus the oil pump), head, valvetrain, valve covers, manifolds (minus the throttle body), and some of the sensors. Do the research on the differences on the two and you'll be fine. I got a cressida motor myself, and didn't realize that the oil pan/pump was different. :icon_eek: It was annoying. Got the engine in, then had to pull it back out again. SOOO annoying. But, that was the result of me not doing my homework... Shoulda RTFM.

Good luck!
 

Fuzz420

Are U Here 2 take My Baby
jazzsaxman1988 said:
While this is generally true, the only things that are the same are the block, internal components (minus the oil pump), head, valvetrain, valve covers, manifolds (minus the throttle body), and some of the sensors. Do the research on the differences on the two and you'll be fine. I got a cressida motor myself, and didn't realize that the oil pan/pump was different. :icon_eek: It was annoying. Got the engine in, then had to pull it back out again. SOOO annoying. But, that was the result of me not doing my homework... Shoulda RTFM.

Good luck!

I know what your saying even tho i didnt do the work myself, the shop dropped the motor in to relize the oil pan would cleart the crossmember, so they said they had to use my oil pan and dipstick stuff. Had i done my research i could have let them know and i could have had my car back faster, but its all a learning curve
 

NexiusEvaro

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May 3, 2006
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well stopped and "fixed" a bulb with the wrong kind and fried my light failure sensor...

did the rewire here: http://www.supracentral.com/content.php?article.111

and everything works again... may put the sensor back in if feel like looking for one... glad to have that damn light off my dash though....

Also, it looks like maybe the engine has been replaced by a jdm already... from what i can tell... I will post some pics tommorow and see what you guys think... looks like the harness has been switched and the motor really doesnt look 200k old....

Think I am going 7mgte this summer and I am assuming that resolving as many issues with regard to body electrical is best done before any swapping goes on... but with an ecu swap as well maybe it's not that important....

thanks for info on cressenda swap... bettin that this na has already gone through one jdm swap and I think I am gonna try to do the 7mgte upgrade... got a line on a rebuilt gte engine and drive train in texas that will be available soon...

regards
 
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NexiusEvaro

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May 3, 2006
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In the potential train wreck of the summer category, I am pleased to report that I expect to receive a rebuilt 7mgte with most of the drivetrain, complete electronics, harness, ic & oc etc thurs or fri...

now the big question... do i pay someone to do the swap for me that has more experience in these matters than I or do I save a bunch of cash and rent the gear for $200 or so and try to swing it myself.. The cash saved would be well spent on other necessary renovations (IC piping, suspension etc... there is always something more to spend loot on...)

gah

- I have been reading for weeks now to prepare myself and I do have a history of doing the occasional insanely complex project with which I have no prior experience...BUT I really enjoy the car and don't want to screw this up either.... Then again paying a guy at a shop to do it for me just feels like a major lamer shortcut..

old enough to know better, young enough to .. well... old enough to really know better at least :eek:wned:

and that concludes me update

regards,
nex
 

NexiusEvaro

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May 3, 2006
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well
my parts are here :icon_bigg still at the freight terminal :3d_frown:

unfortunately, I don't have the quote number for the quote given by the shipping co. for charges, so when my pallets arrived they came with a shipping bill of just about $100 or so over DOUBLE what they were supposed to be...

I didnt realize that you need a record of the specific quote (called the "quote number" - sry couldnt resist) and I am still waiting for my seller to get back with to me with that &^&*%$*! number (assuming there is one to give me... :3d_frown: ) not sure what I can really do but pay them whatever they want if there is no quote number. I am hoping they don't try to nail me for storage fees over the holiday as well....Think the engine was in last week but they refused to check the dock without the tracking number- got that from the seller on sat.... (preposting delete!)

so here's my little contribution to the other newbs out there

MAKE SURE YOU GET AND RECORD BOTH A QUOTE AND QUOTE REFERENCE NUMBER when you set up delivery of your stuff... if the person who is selling you your gear sets up shipping for ya, call the shipper and get confirmation of the quote # (or a quote of your own issued before the initial ship date.....)

save yourself a bit of extended aggravation fun.... :icon_evil

happy 4th ya all

nex
 

NexiusEvaro

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May 3, 2006
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The shipper managed to get the charges fixed and I received a good percentage of the package I bought. Turbo has bad shaft play side to side (turbine can touch the housing in some directions and I am lacking a driveline yet but the whole thing was packed up well and looks like a decent rebuild job on the head/block...will have to have a pro look over the block before I get too deep into it... engine dressing looks kinda rough overall...)

After looking at what I have, I believe this is what I have to work with... I would be very interested if anyone know any refs to engine, harness, and ecu coding for confirmation of this...

'90 (guess) 7mgte relatively complete engine with MT bolted on and a '90 wiring harness attached (mostly dark grey connectors ie. o2 sensor connector & ecu plugs) for an Auto Tranny :3d_frown:

also got an 88 harness and 88 MT ECU with it (I believe based on seller description, pin count, and the yellow ecu plugs and light grey and harness to engine clips - yellow o2 sensor clip)

Is it possible to have toyota plug my MT ecu in and get a production year and general functionality test done prior to going forward?

Is it even possible to work with what I have to make a 86.5 turbo MT vehicle? In looking it over tonight it looks like a connector or harness splice job given that the harnessess and ecus are so different between 88 to 90 which would be ugly and likely troublesome in the long haul....

I assume pre 89 gear would be the most friendly with my 86.5 body wiring...I am getting some dash components, dash wiring and the like from the 90 donor car... not sure how much this will help with the conversion beyond the tach fix though...

I would love to get a good price on a brand new wiring harness and do the install with that ... but which year would be the least work? Somehow I doubt toyota or anyone else for that matter sells a harness for a 90 engine to be controlled by an 88 ecu to be planted in an 86.5

Guessing an 88 to fit my ecu plugs and modify it to the engine... Obviously getting a 90 ecu and MT harness would be best if such a thing could be found, but I am wondering if it worth the effort to get another somewhat ragged harness to do the install with ... have 2 of those already I could frankenstein... it does look like the wiring color codes was somewhat stable over the years from my experience this evening... given that's true it would make it an easier job to contend with at least...

All in all, it comes down to havin a mismatched engine transmission and ecu/harness

Any input or refs are appreciated!

regards