Kaaz lsd in wow wow

[Wiisass]

so what can us people with just a regular stock lsd do to make both tires grab, I know that when I do my burnouts at the track it's a coin toss as to whether or not both wheels are going to spin...

Replace it with an aftermarket one, like the Kaaz or ATS.

 

[Mr.PFloyd]

jay.... :rofl:
You make me smile a lot lol.

 

[flubyux2]

lol... i love it when people talk about this stuff.

a kaaz 2-way will Drive, act, feel, sound, taste and smell like a welded diff.

lets break it down

Kaaz needs routine servicing
-welded does not
Kaaz needs proprietary lube or special additives
-welded does not
Kaaz costs alot o money
-welded does not

$900 for a 2-way diff with a finite life and needs to be coddled more than wilford brimley in his incontinent years or $50 for a welded diff that needs no maintenance or special lubes?

i just thought id point out the obvious since most people seem to be blinded by the bling rather than being rational.

 

[blackturbona]

i just thought id point out the obvious since most people seem to be blinded by the bling rather than being rational.

tell that to the people with escalades and expensive rims

just sayin bling can be nice

 

[flubyux2]

yeah... untill they need to stop quickly but find out that having 150 lbs of wheel and tire on each corner makes stock brakes useless.

just cuz other people are ignant doesnt mean my associates should be.

 

[suprabad]

Kaaz needs routine servicing
-welded does not
Kaaz needs proprietary lube or special additives
-welded does not
Kaaz costs alot o money
-welded does not

$900 for a 2-way diff...or $50 for a welded diff that needs no maintenance or special lubes?

...people seem to be blinded by the bling rather than being rational.

Beat me to it, couldn't agree more! I'm reading these posts about how much better the Kaaz is and I'm thinking...why?

Don't know about drift (said while smirking and rolling eyes), but at the strip my welded lsd has been amazingly tough.

I've twisted driveshafts, snapped U-joints, burned up a couple of transmissions but no problems at all with my LSD w/ 4.30's.

I'll put that $900 in the drag radial fund.:icon_razz

 

[TurboFreak]

Drift + Welded diff. = awesome

 

[flubyux2]

Drift + Welded diff. = awesome

yes, very much so.

however, dont try to do any gymkhana or touge with either of these diffs. thats basically why mine isnt welded yet. ive moved past drifting onto road racing. i just have more fun "grip driving"... especially since ive got a great 33 mile long road that is very technical.

 

[NashMan]

lol... i love it when people talk about this stuff.

a kaaz 2-way will Drive, act, feel, sound, taste and smell like a welded diff.

lets break it down

Kaaz needs routine servicing
-welded does not
Kaaz needs proprietary lube or special additives
-welded does not
Kaaz costs alot o money
-welded does not

$900 for a 2-way diff with a finite life and needs to be coddled more than wilford brimley in his incontinent years or $50 for a welded diff that needs no maintenance or special lubes?

i just thought id point out the obvious since most people seem to be blinded by the bling rather than being rational.

all will never run welded diff i have had one in my rx7 and never agian and there miles apart in performace you can still drive down windy roads have fun i find it alot better plus if feel liek it i can chnage it to 1.5 way if i wanted too

as for matenes ummm arnt you suppost to change you diff fulid cause i kinda do i don't know about you and there is no addtive to run if you run kaaz oil

as for life they will last for a long time way longer then stock one ever will

plus iof it break wheesl lock up and ummmm crash

 

[flubyux2]

all will never run welded diff i have had one in my rx7 and never agian and there miles apart in performace you can still drive down windy roads have fun i find it alot better plus if feel liek it i can chnage it to 1.5 way if i wanted too

as for matenes ummm arnt you suppost to change you diff fulid cause i kinda do i don't know about you and there is no addtive to run if you run kaaz oil

as for life they will last for a long time way longer then stock one ever will

plus iof it break wheesl lock up and ummmm crash

well then you wouldnt be buying a 2-way what makes a 2-way diff is machined into its design of the diff case and componenets. its not something you can turn on or off or tweak out of a full 2-way.

trust me, a 2-way drives just like a welded diff...

and you change normal diff lube ever 70k miles... mechanical 2-way diffs are alot more sensative than a typical clutch pack diff like ours and FAR more picky than a VLSD like the S5 Rx7's like i had in my GTU-S.

and when a welded diff breaks, it doesnt lock up... at least none of the ones i have seen. they usually blow out the spider gears and no power can be transferred to the axles.

also, these 2-way diffs arent really "set it and forget it". they are meant to be tuned and set up. they REQUIRE frequent servicing. thats the premise of a 2-way. if you dont, it wont be in tip-top shape.

2-way diffs are a far more expensive and complex example of the functionality that a welded diff provides; its a widely beleived fact!

also, Kaaz diffs are made by Tomei iirc. and Tomei sells their own lube for use in their diffs. i would expect that its formlated with specific additives for their requirements as opposed to the average gear lube found in your local auto parts store. (here is what im talking about)
http://www.tomei-p.co.jp/_2003web-catalogue/efr_set-from_top-menu/efr_index_t-trax-ad_rset_2.htm

if you guys want to pay 20x more money and have infinite more things to go wrong than a stock LSD or welded diff and be stuck using proprietary gear lube made from special japanese dinosaur remains, be my guest. consider yourselves warned; With great drifting parts comes great pains in the asses!

 

[suprabad]

...will not suck like the stock LSD.

It's a million times better than the stock one in any form.

Yeaaaaaaaaaah.......I'm gonna go ahead and disagree with your first statement......second one too....

Seriously, the stock LSD doesn't suck.

And a million times better?
Why not a zillion or a kajillion times better?:sarcasm:

 

[TurboFreak]

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and when a welded diff breaks, it doesnt lock up... at least none of the ones i have seen. they usually blow out the spider gears and no power can be transferred to the axles.

In some cases the wheels do lock up, usually when the person doesn't weld enough of the gear together. Just to keep this debate 100% accurate.

 

[BorHor]

So what happens when my welds break at the track? No matter what my car is undriveable... And the tracks are uaually 3 - 8 hours away. For some people like me a real LSD is better in the case that something does happen to the diff I can still drive home. And no I am not going to tow it home.. because the price for a tow will equal the diff.

 

[TurboFreak]

Seriously, the stock LSD doesn't suck.

It does, if your racing the car. Tim is talking mainly about it sucking while drifting. After a few events the clutch packs are done for.

 

[NashMan]

you never run a true good lsd befor have you 2 way will just lock up on decel that is the major diff it will still slip just wonte do it as much at low speed 1.5 way not as much and 1 way not at all

the kazz as i see it is agrsives lsd

reson why when they die and go out o control is i have sean it befor now if doe snto you are lucky

this happen in my frist gen rx7 scared the shit out fo me lucky i was not going as fast

and you can chnage you lsd to what you want as well just pop it swap the caseing around bango you got a 1.5 way

not sure if you can turn it to a 1 way thou

 

[NashMan]

pic's of install and up come vid as well just ahve to weight for my buddie to finsh it

not really full out drif vid but there tad bti of it i just had some fun again

had to run thou cops were showing up lol

 

[suprabad]

In some cases the wheels do lock up, usually when the person doesn't weld enough of the gear together. Just to keep this debate 100% accurate.

I'm sure that's true, but to be fair I've had stock 3rd members lock up on me.

I think the Toyota LSD is an exceptionally tough rear end, especially considering it's connected to independent supension, which tend to be wimpy in the ring and pinion department with alot of OEM's.

I can see some of you are in love with the Kaaz, and I'm sure it's probably pretty nice, but c'mon guy's...let's be even handed about this.

 

[Mrbaboon]

I'm uploading the video now.

...zomg I want one.

And to suprabad... the difference is..unbelievable. If you like destroying tires this is worth every penny.

VIDEO IS UP:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v121/mrbaboon/?action=view&current=ryan.flv

 

[flubyux2]

boris... AAA pays itself off the first time you get a tow. you may want to look into it i hope you dont mean paying out of pocket for a tow is the cost of a Kaaz/Tomei/TRD diff!!! holy crap, thats like cross-country.

Nash; read this page http://www.tomei-p.co.jp/_2003web-catalogue/efr_set-from_top-menu/efr_index_t-trax-ad_rset_2.htm
that will tell you why you can not simply change a kaaz/tomei diff from 2-way to 1.5-way. its not possible with these units.

you say aggressive LSD, i say locked on and off the throttle... like a welded diff. good luck trying to modulate the throttle thru a turn so as to find that fine edge where youre not under poewr but youre not coasting....

a Fresh stock clutch-type LSD is aggressive. my Trans Am would keep the diff locked at low speeds and chatter/squeal the inside tire during turns when i was under power. it felt just like a 1.5 way but was 100% stock. an Aggressive LSD is a locker that rachets and pops loose during turns like those sold for 4x4 trucks.

the stock diff does, indeed, suck for driftery... im all behind that statement. in fact, mine is basically a -2 way... weak lockup during accel and weak lockup during decel (at least around turns). going straight, it always stays locked. maybe its working EXTRA well, in regards to stock form? idk..

 

[NashMan]

i had nice littel actacle about how to swap the lsd around aka chance the trust cones around so you can tunr into a 1.5 way but i can not seam to find it it prety much like clocking the lsd

at the time of buying they did nto have any 1.5 in the states so it take very long time to get so i whnet witht he 2 way but my plan was to clck it but i gave the 2 way a shot and i like it for now


but dude weld it crap compare to lsd cause if welded was better why whoudent every other drifter or racer weld there diff

alot fo race cars use 2 way lsd in there cars