JDM Raybrig diamond cut housings

[Mr.Supra]

For those others that have used Raybrig housings, with HIDs can you shed some light here? (no pun intended) I sold a set to a member on here. I took very detailed pics, took the time to post links to vendors for these in the ad, AND I even made a video showing them working.

Got a very disturbing text message and I dont know what to make of it.


I lived in Japan and alot of cars used these, and are very popular. I dont know if he is didnt search or just doesnt know.

I just want some other members who have either heard of them or used them to post here.



here is the set in question ( 900 dollar setup) http://www.supramania.com/forums/sh...rsion-kit!-JDM!-Rare!!Very-High-Quality!!!***

[video=youtube;DpllY8oIGzU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpllY8oIGzU[/video]

 

[IJ.]

Why would you sell someone RHD lights to use in a LHD car?
(pattern and cutoff are going to be 100% wrong)

 

[Mr.Supra]

Why would you sell someone RHD lights to use in a LHD car?
(pattern and cutoff are going to be 100% wrong)

This isnt my first rodeo.
When i did my research ALOT of people use them on here theres even a multipage comparison.

http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?158493-Raybrig-headlamp-VS-Kaze-Aerocraft

And people have sold the same sets before. Raybrig doenst make a LHD/RHD specific housing.
http://www.supramania.com/forums/sh...ignal-Lights-Cheap-Profec-B&highlight=raybrig

 

[IJ.]

A LOT of people do stupid things doesn't make it right... :nono:

Maybe the laws in the USA are different but here if you tried this the car would be defected and put off the road.

RetroFit HIDS are bad enough at the best of times let alone in the wrongsidedrive housings

 

[Mr.Supra]

People often are fooled into thinking that brighter is always better. Diamond Cut eBay headlamps only glare more and throw light in places you dont want them. For drop in replacements, the Hella eCodes are best value. If you find E-Code Raybrig, they are good as well but are much more expensive. If you perform a projector retrofit with good projectors, you will get the best overall performance.

Im trying to get this guy to come out of the woodwork if he is still around

 

[IJ.]

You don't seem to be getting my point, the RHD lights are aimed for the wrong side of the road and should never be used in a LHD car....

 

[Mr.Supra]

A LOT of people do stupid things doesn't make it right... :nono:

Maybe the laws in the USA are different but here if you tried this the car would be defected and put off the road.

RetroFit HIDS are bad enough at the best of times let alone in the wrongsidedrive housings

Actually Retrofit HIDs are illegal in the states

But the Raybrigs are only JDM just like the Hella are Ecodes.. I do get your point and i know about the light direction vs lhd and rhd. People like jdm parts, what can i say, people install power folding mirrors from RHD cars too, even though it causes a different angled view. My ad states JDM wasnt decieving anyone

We are off topic here though. I think i am getting scammed by the buyer and i hope he responds in here. I had 3 other people who wanted these.

I just am looking for more Raybrig Owners to comment and give advice. At this point I just want my stuff back.

 

[IJ.]

Did you bother ringing him to find out what's going on?

 

[IBoughtASupra]

Ian is right here. I don't want to know how the headlights are aimed. I have driven with RHD folding mirrors on our LHD Supras and its a different ball game. If you want HID, shoot Poodles a PM.

 

[Mr.Supra]

Did you bother ringing him to find out what's going on?

Yeah I ringed him 20 mins after that text..maybe its just late..I get paranoid. I had a paypal buyer mail me back phonebooks and i lost out on a 750 dollar set of coilovers

On a side note I figured out his text (Stanely-Raybrig)



I think he is talking about the housing not the HID. The HIDs are the money maker in this setup. They have Solenoids that pop the hid bulb in and out, to give a different light direction between the low and high beam. The HIDs are 688 dollars alone new.

 

[Poodles]

Lots of info to cover here...

- Raybrig and Stanley are the same company so far as I remember.
- There are different E-codes for different European countries. Some are LHD, some are RHD. Anything that is JDM is only equivelent to a RHD E-code which is 100% completely wrong and dangerous to use in a LHD country. This is why there are metal or vinyl stickers that are applied to headlights over in Europe.


Now, HID kits in halogen housings will never ever work well.
- Completely different light source (filement is 90 degrees to the way an HID arc is, and they emit light at different points along their length)
- ALL lights are made to send some light up above the cutoff. Now drop a bulb in that outputs double the lumens. Guess what, you're now blinding people with glare.
- There's no effective way to make a high/low H4 HID bulb. All of them suffer from leakage to the high beam portion of the lense causing even more glare. Casper shields with D2S bulbs work, but you only get low beam, and you still have the same issue as above.

Add it all together and it's cop bait or worse...

 

[BigKO]

Lots of info to cover here...

- Raybrig and Stanley are the same company so far as I remember.
- There are different E-codes for different European countries. Some are LHD, some are RHD. Anything that is JDM is only equivelent to a RHD E-code which is 100% completely wrong and dangerous to use in a LHD country. This is why there are metal or vinyl stickers that are applied to headlights over in Europe.


Now, HID kits in halogen housings will never ever work well.
- Completely different light source (filement is 90 degrees to the way an HID arc is, and they emit light at different points along their length)
- ALL lights are made to send some light up above the cutoff. Now drop a bulb in that outputs double the lumens. Guess what, you're now blinding people with glare.
- There's no effective way to make a high/low H4 HID bulb. All of them suffer from leakage to the high beam portion of the lense causing even more glare. Casper shields with D2S bulbs work, but you only get low beam, and you still have the same issue as above.

Add it all together and it's cop bait or worse...

Are you guys even reading what the man is asking? He knows they are JDM. He knows they are aimed wrong for LHD roads. He sold them as JDM, that is the buyers responsibility at that point. What is your point with telling this man this? Just to preach? He is asking specifically about the stanley/raybrig issue, and weather or not he is being scammed. Poodles, I am not trying to flame you, just this thread in general with these kinds of replies. Your point about them being the same company was spot on.

 

[Supracentral]

Are you guys even reading what the man is asking? He knows they are JDM. He knows they are aimed wrong for LHD roads. He sold them as JDM, that is the buyers responsibility at that point. What is your point with telling this man this? Just to preach? He is asking specifically about the stanley/raybrig issue, and weather or not he is being scammed. Poodles, I am not trying to flame you, just this thread in general with these kinds of replies. Your point about them being the same company was spot on.

I've got to agree... Talking about the merits/hazards of this type of lighting is "off-topic" in this thread as it was specifically about something else.

Back on topic.

 

[suprarx7nut]

Agreed that nobody is answering the OP's question. Who gives a shit if the output isn't right for US-spec laws. THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE. All too many people use incorrect headlights, but that's not what this is about.

OP: I read your ad when it was up and it was perfectly fine. Hopefully you still have a copy of the ad thread (it should still be up). I understood it entirely and knew they were RHD and plastic housings. That was made perfectly clear. Your buyer is being a bit hard-headed it seems.

Show him the original sale post with the info. Let him know they are actual Raybrig's and Stanely IS Raybrig. Also, I always understood all the Raybrig housings for our cars were plastic and NOT glass. Sounds like the buyer was unaware, but that's not YOUR responsibility. I dont think he is trying to scam you, but it sounds like he wasn't aware of exactly what he was buying. Not because you misled anyone, but because he didn't know what he was buying.

Hope that helps answer your actual question.


***Edit, just went back and re-read your for sale thread. You didn't actually make it clear they were plastic or RHD. I guess I just knew that Raybrig's were like that. Regardless, you did not, in any way, mislead the buyer into thinking they were LHD or glass unless there was more contact outside that thread.

 

[Mr.Supra]

Guys I just got off the phone with the buyer and everything has been resolved. Very happy now. Just a simple mistake where one thought stanley and raybrig were different companies. The housings say stanly and the lenses say raybrig. If you didnt know they were the same company its easy to see why someone would have thought someone glued raybrig lenses on a stanley housing.


Thanks once again for the prompt replies and quick feedback :icon_bigg