Immigrant rights group angry employers are firing illegal aliens who engage in fraud.

[suprasport91]

my opinions on this issue arise from nothing other than my life's expierences.
i have worked with "these" people shoulder to shoulder formany years. they feel they are entitled to my rights, even though they are here illegally,why should someone have the right to disapprove of us immigration policy, when they crossed the rio grande a couple of years ago in the dark?


edit....and as far as my "qualifications" to live in my country...go to your library, and look at a copy of the mayflower compact, you will find the name Gunning Bedford Jr

that is my family...we've been here a very long time...yeah we came over on a boat...the "first" one...

Do these people work as hard/harder than you? They are not bad people, they deserve not to be shot, they do not understand the concept of credit. What they are doing is illegal and in a sence immoral however, from my understanding they do not know what kind of damage they are causing, and from what i have observed from anthropology, latin american descendents passed throgh N.America to get here thus we are in fact one of the first inhabitants of the country, where what we know now as americans are a bunch of immigrants that took over Im not trying to upset anybody, im sorry if i have, ive just been denied so much becuase of my origin where americans complain about a couple thousand dollars in taxes ( which i also pay), i do however understand the issue with identity fraud ( illeagals arent the only ones doing it though)

 

[suprasport91]

These fucking people are hillarious.

I get a kick out of the illegals who "protest".

GUESS FUCKING WHAT?

You don't have the right to protest, free speach, or freedom of the press unless you are a CITIZEN

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anybody has those rights inherintly, they are just not within the law, they are essentially not being protected for there freedoms, thus they can be persecuted by the governement without remorse

 

[trucker]

no they do not work as hard/harder than i do

in fact they for the mostpatr the laziest group of people i have ever seen(and i'm talking about illegal mexicans here)

top three things i heaed

3. i don't care
2. i go to the union
1.not my job

because of the welfare money, they have no incentive to put out any more effort,this mentality, along with union involvement means they strive to get as much as they can, with no effort on their part, the job is just "ez money"
to send back home after all i'm paying their bills here...right?

i think being in academia right now, you have no convept on how things work out in the "real world"

like i said,spend a few years working with "them" and you will have a more realistic point of view

and that is why i left that lind of work, i had a supervisor tell me outright that he expected more out of me, because i was white(at this point i was doing the work of two or three of "those" people

i moved to trucking, because pay is performance based,not dictated by union rules and "standards"

 

[trucker]

anybody has those rights inherintly, they are just not within the law, they are essentially not being protected for there freedoms, thus they can be persecuted by the governement without remorse

um...not really, they need to change thier respective gvts and earn those rights...we fought, and still fight for ours

 

[GotBoost?]

With all due repect what are your qualifications for being a citizen in the USA, ... i realize that the USA has opportunities that other countried do not, should the advancement of society be denied due to geographical differences?

One born within the US or its territories has qualified as a US Citizen, Mr. Einstein. My beef with your post is this, however: "i realize that the USA has opportunities that other countried do not, should the advancement of society be denied due to geographical differences?" Damn right it should. How do illegals advance society? By burdening the American infrastructure? And if you have a nicer house than mine, do I have the right to sneak in and demand you don't complain??? You're using the same sick argument that thieves (scumbags!, may they rot in hell) use to steal the hardworking individual's stuff: I can't afford it but he can, therefore I can take it from him. And if you're so unhappy with the US immigration policies (which we all know are not being enforced), feel free to go back to where you came from. You don't see people here complaining about the laws of Ecuador, do you?
One more thing: If you think the US has too strict immigration policies, and that such policies stifle intellectual or educated individual immigration, I have news for you: The great majority of illegals here in the US have a 3rd. grade education, at most. Illegal immigration is just the massive importation of poverty.

Somebody here is right on about something: Have the corporations pay the $50K/head, and there soon won't be too many companies willing to pay that price, and illegals will soon trudge back to where they came from.

 

[JustAnotherVictim]

anybody has those rights inherintly, they are just not within the law, they are essentially not being protected for there freedoms, thus they can be persecuted by the governement without remorse

Sorry man that's not true.
Go anywhere else you don't have the same freedoms.
Some places even if you are a citizen. Rights are granted to those who follow the law.

 

[bigaaron]

That really pisses me off, I thought they "just wanted to work", but I guess they also don't care how many laws are broken in the process huh.

It's racism against the criminal race, regardless of color, and I'm all for that. Just because the majority of people stealing identity to live here are mexican does not mean they should be allowed to get away with it. I think some jail time in Mexico after their deportation would be a great idea.

 

[Adjuster]

There are exceptions to the rule on both sides to this issue, but the reality is the VAST majority of people flooding across the border into the USA for work purposes take advantage of the system.

Case in point. I worked an union shop where I was one of 3 white guys in a shop of more than 60 people. (Yes, the other 57 were all Mexican.) They had greencards, or whatever they needed to work here. They were all family men, with kids and a wife. Nice guys, and hard working for the most part. (As were the 3 token white guys... lol)

Ok, one day we are sitting around talking about life during lunch break, and this one guy tells us about his new blazer... Says he paid cash for it. I asked him how the hell he paid cash for a 20k blazer when he only makes 12.50 per hour? He also lived across town from me in a very small town. (Only 1200 people, and again, I'm like part of the 2% that is white there.)

He proceeds to tell me he's married in Mexico, but single in the USA. His wife is on welfare, and they live in a house provided to her and the kids he is "not" the father of. (Clearly our own state and federal run programs are turning a blind eye to the reality that these people are leeches.) Then the rest of the guys tell me they are doing similar stuff, even start talking about how they take more kids down to sign up so they get more money.. you know, my kids, and my sister-in-law's kids, and hell, just grab a few more kids from the housing development and go sign up for money...

Lost all respect for everyone of them at that point. Hard work my ass if your cheating the system to get whatever you can out of it.

To all the mexicans or anyone else that would like to live here, all I ask is you play fair by the rules. Untill then you're shit in my opinion. Not because of your race, but because your shit man. No matter what color or nationality you started off as, if you act like shit, you're shit.

 

[GotBoost?]

No matter what color or nationality you started off as, if you act like shit, you're shit.

Truer words were never spoken. Agree 100%

 

[souprat]

What they are doing is illegal and in a sence immoral

you said it yourself. its illigal. therefor, any punishment(deportation, jail) that may come to illigal imigrants is justifyed. you also mentioned that getting into this country to study was hard and you infact were deported once, did i read correctly? while i have no personal expiriance (born and raised in virginia), i would imagine that the reason why it is hard to get in legally is because there are a ton of illigals already in the country. kinda like theres not enough room for both the legals and illigals. yes there are only so many ways into the country, but at least we are letting people in. we could just ban imigration of all kinds. so no, we are not denying people of other countrys the resorses of the USA because there are legal ways you can access them. and if your too impatient to waite in line and fiil out all the paperwork then why should you be granted access to the goods my country has to offer?

 

[suprasport91]

Looks like i missed alot, by saying everyone has rights inherently i was reffereing to an old quote by Rousseau, and many have died trying to express this inherent human right( freedom), was not saying it had to be backed by the government

It looks like im the bad guy...didnt mean to come off defending crime, however, i have seen hatred and racism first hand for many years, and i know for a fact that racism is one of the reasons people do not support immigration, along side with the illegal portion of it ( which i want to make clear that i do not support)

As far as getting deported, that was my fault ended up being a vaction in Baja tho

Either way there are bad apples from every ethnic background, however, the notion that all mexicans(hispanics; as i have been mistaken for everyhing but my own ethnicity) are guilty of a crime is not cool

 

[trucker]

Looks like i missed alot, by saying everyone has rights inherently i was reffereing to an old quote by Rousseau, and many have died trying to express this inherent human right( freedom), was not saying it had to be backed by the government

It looks like im the bad guy...didnt mean to come off defending crime, however, i have seen hatred and racism first hand for many years, and i know for a fact that racism is one of the reasons people do not support immigration, along side with the illegal portion of it ( which i want to make clear that i do not support)

As far as getting deported, that was my fault ended up being a vaction in Baja tho

Either way there are bad apples from every ethnic background, however, the notion that all mexicans(hispanics; as i have been mistaken for everyhing but my own ethnicity) are guilty of a crime is not cool

no..not all the mexicans just the ones who come over the rio grande in the middle of the night, walked thru the desert,and entered my country illegally, and demand rights/benefits that are not thiers to take

 

[bigaaron]

My stand on the subject has nothing to do with their race at all. I don't even pay much attention to people's color, just how they act and what they do.

 

[isnms]

I think I will have dinner at Applebees and breakfast at Dunkin Doughnuts from now on.

Ditto, I know one office that is having Dunkin Donuts in the morning.

'no match' is black and white. This is what all employers should have been doing from day one. Those 'no match' are not here just trying to make a better life, they are causing an unbearable life for some legal citizen. Someone that can't buy a car, can't get credit and looses their home because their credit has been stolen and ruined.

If you support them, send them a quick message:
Applebee's http://www.applebees.com/GuestLanding.aspx
Dunkin Donuts https://www.dunkindonuts.com/aboutus/contact/Feedback.aspx?type=5

 

[JustAnotherVictim]

Looks like i missed alot, by saying everyone has rights inherently i was reffereing to an old quote by Rousseau, and many have died trying to express this inherent human right( freedom), was not saying it had to be backed by the government
It looks like im the bad guy...didnt mean to come off defending crime, however, i have seen hatred and racism first hand for many years, and i know for a fact that racism is one of the reasons people do not support immigration, along side with the illegal portion of it ( which i want to make clear that i do not support)
As far as getting deported, that was my fault ended up being a vaction in Baja tho
Either way there are bad apples from every ethnic background, however, the notion that all mexicans(hispanics; as i have been mistaken for everyhing but my own ethnicity) are guilty of a crime is not cool

You're still ok man.
I don't care what color anyone is, if you come in illegally you need to pay.

 

[lanky189]

..I've got a few hundred illegal hunting tags here... 150 bucks gets your six tags..

any takers?

 

[isnms]

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