i want to beat a 2j

toyotakid

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whats the cheepest way in upgades to be able to put out enough power to beat a stock 97 2jz-gte? so i can rub it in my friends face. and is there diffrent routs to getting that power? thanks, Josh
 
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cnewingham

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cheepest way in upgades

that is going to be your first mistake!
do you have a mhg and arps already? what kind of condition is your car in? are you still running stock fuel, stock turbo etc..? cant help you if you dont tell us what your supra consists of already.
 

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Agree with CNew!

Countdown to "My car's overheating and filling the radiator overflow why is it doing this?" thread starts now! ;)

LMAO!!!!!!

:biglaugh: :biglaugh:

Supra and cheap should not be in the same sentence! Dont cut corners!
 

souprat

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dont get into a pissing contest, there will always be someone who is faster. just learn to do the best with what you have.
 

toyotakid

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the cars in prety good condition and bone stock and i should have said it diffrent, i dont want to go all out but i dont want junk, hows a 1,250 dollar limit for now sound.
 

MassSupra89

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For a generalization.
-Headgasket
-Intake/Turbo back Exhaust
-MaftPro with 550's and Walbro

Just take your time and don't do it for your friend. Do it for yourself.
Do the research and check all the parts that will break or need replacing before modding or throwing cheap parts on.
 

aye mate

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toyotakid said:
the cars in prety good condition and bone stock and i should have said it diffrent, i dont want to go all out but i dont want junk, hows a 1,250 dollar limit for now sound.
Spend it on maintenance. Do the HG now instead of later.
 

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1) will a new toyota head gasket be fine or should i get a aftermarket one?
2) whats a pretty good exaust that i wont get tickets for?
3) and in new so "MaftPro with 550's and Walbro" maftpro 550's are fule injecters? and what Walbro?
 

aye mate

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A Toyota headgasket and ARP bolts/studs torqued to 80ft.lbs. would be fine.
There are numerous exhausts out there. Some of the quieter ones that still perform well are the HKS Super Drager and the Tanabe Hyper Medallion. Also you can get cat back pipes from SupraSport.com and use any muffler you want.
I personally would advise you not to get the Maft-pro as your power goals can be reached with the stock computer and little or no tuning. Suprasport.com and horsepowerfreaks.com both have fuel pump kits for the 7M. They have the Walbro that you need. IMO the stock 440cc injectors are enough as long as they are in good condition.
 
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cnewingham

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if you are going to take the time to do the hg do it right the first time and go with a mhg period! also $1250 is not going to get you where you want so beating your friend is out the window as of now. Do the maintence first and then mod the car or else you will be another one to give up on the mk3 and tarnish its name more.
 

MassSupra89

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Your family owns a Toyota dealership??? damn you're lucky.

Like Aye Mate said you could achieve 300+hp on stock turbo and computer... but the time you spend on modding, your friend could also be using that time wisely. It's a never ending race.:evil2:

Yes that's the Pump you want, Search for Walbro Fuel Pump, there's lots of information and install write-ups to be found.
 

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Get a MHG (metal head gasket) from HKS, Greddy, etc., etc. and some ARP head bolts or [head] studs. An OEM gasket with added torque is believed by some to be reliable, but it's just not the greatest route to go. A MHG will cost you anywhere from $120-$300+, but if you're going for modest power, a slim one (1-1.2mm) will do you just fine. ARP bolts or studs will cost you around $100 for the set.

There are plenty of exhausts to choose from that will keep you ticket free (for noise only). You need to give more information on just how loud you want it to be. A decent exhaust can cost you from $300-$700.

A MAF-T (Pro or original) is a GM Mass Air Flow Translator. With this you switch to a GM MAF instead of the Toyota AFM, which is more restrictive than a decent-sized MAF (3-3.5"). The kit comes with a little tuning "module" and allows you to do minor tuning. A piggy back fuel computer is recommended for more fine tuning but not absolutely necessary. I have a MAF-T but haven't used it yet. I highly recommend it from what I know. The MAF-T Pro costs $400 and the original MAF-T is closer to $300 if I'm not mistaken.

550s are 550cc injectors. 440s are stock. Most MKIII guys do a 550/Lexus 4.0L V8 (1UZ-FE) AFM upgrade, but the MAF-T has officially stolen the 1UZ AFM's thunder. I run RC 550s and a Suprasport.com 1UZ replica AFM and this does away with the ridiculously low [yet safe] stock fuel cut (11.5-12.7 PSI depending on A/F ratio). 550s will cost you $400-ish and a used 1UZ AFM goes for $100 plus.

Walbro refers to a Walbro 255 LPH (liter per hour) fuel pump. You need a faster, more reliable fuel pump than OEM if you want to significantly increase boost. I have one and once again, it's uninstalled (October, fellas). The pump costs around $100.

Before you do anything to your car you better damn well be knowledgeable enough to perform the work yourself if you intend to. If you have the least bit of doubt in yourself before installing something and taking the chance of making a mistake, either ask some of the guys here for assistance or try to find a performance shop in your area that is fair and honest.

I've made mistakes on my Supra that it has not totally overcome. It's all a learning experience and I've learned not to do anything beyond my capability. If I had waited 2-3 more years (time-permitting) to do my MHG job then things would have turned out much better. I'm not talking anything remotely catasrophic here, but the smallest mistakes can make a car-especially a turbo car-run like shit.

Good luck to you and welcome to the MKIII Supra community. Let the addiction start...
 

garagefujimoto

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toyotakid said:
1) will a new toyota head gasket be fine or should i get a aftermarket one?
2) whats a pretty good exaust that i wont get tickets for?
3) and in new so "MaftPro with 550's and Walbro" maftpro 550's are fule injecters? and what Walbro?

Please take your car to a reputable shop or by the looks of things, the only thing you'll be beating will be a dump truck.

BTW MaftPro is a engine computer
BTW 550's are larger fuel injectors
BTW Walbro is a fuel pump to fill the injectors
 

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SP 7M said:
Get a MHG (metal head gasket) from HKS, Greddy, etc
I think the Cometic needs honorable mention here. The HKS and Greddy MHG need a smoother surface to seal properly so unless you are getting the head and block machined the Cometic is where you want to be as far as MHG. I don't know the exact numbers but the Cometic doesn't need to have as smooth a surface as the other brands.
 

toyotakid

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ok ill have to orderup some stuff and ill be all set on the work, i can do 90% of it but when it becomes technical i have over 10 experienced toyota trained mechanics.