Nick M;1808936 said:Except he is not running that turbo at that much airflow.
gsxr141;1808992 said:at what point does a mhg become necessary? i'm shooting for 400whp with my budget setup. i'm worried about having the head done to get a perfect surface for a mhg.
can a stock hg with arp studs handle that?
Upgraded turbos are a whole different thing. Even 57trim upgrades push your upper limit into 400+ territory.Turbo Habanero;1808994 said:I know I just figured it wouldn't be that big of a difference.
gsxr141;1808992 said:at what point does a mhg become necessary? i'm shooting for 400whp with my budget setup. i'm worried about having the head done to get a perfect surface for a mhg.
can a stock hg with arp studs handle that?
I think we are on two different pages here..GrimJack;1809003 said:Upgraded turbos are a whole different thing. Even 57trim upgrades push your upper limit into 400+ territory.
However, when it comes to the stock turbo, the mod path and power gains have been well documented for nearly two decades.
gsxr141;1809060 said:thanks... i have a freshly rebuilt shortblock. i'm just trying to save some time by not having to get any head work done. at this point, i'll probably have the head gone through. this way, i can use a mhg.
Aha! I missed the 57 trim in his initial specs. Yes, that will increase his possible top end. There is still a world of difference between trims, as your next post illustrates.Turbo Habanero;1809018 said:I think we are on two different pages here..
He is running a 57trim @ 15 psi I was thinking he would be making more then you quoted to the wheels Grim.
I also said that I didn't think the 57trim would make that much less then the 60-1
Actually, no, that was for a stock turbo. With a 57 trim, you could be knocking on the door to 400.laxboy36;1809143 said:ok so around 300hp area then. not bad
gsxr141;1808992 said:at what point does a mhg become necessary?
At this stage, an AFC is borderline. Personally, I'd go for a standalone, especially if you're set on using the stock pistons - they really cannot handle any detonation.gsxr141;1809360 said:Thanks guys. This thing was supposed to rebuilt on a budget. I know i'll probably need to do a clutch and a bunch of other stuff, so i was hoping to save on some stuff.
I'm going to definitely get the head milled so i can use a mhg, i just wasn't sure if the cams and valves would make a difference at this point.
AT THIS STAGE CAN I USE AN AFC, OR SHOULD I JUST GET THE STANDALONE NOW?