ok so ive searched around and ive found answers but none from recent dates. thought the Ronr was the way to go, but read that he no longer makes it....so what is a current way of getting a FFIM? my supra has no A/C, and has power steering. are there any ways of doing it still that dont involve me selling a lung?
how to get FFIM on 7m?
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Look in the misc. Vendors section here.
Have them custom made to whatever you want. But be ready to pay some money, there's no ebay option.
Have them custom made to whatever you want. But be ready to pay some money, there's no ebay option.
you can put a blockoff plate where your current I/M is, and cut a huge hole in the front of your IM, and weld a plate to mount your throttle body, on the front.
cheapest solution lol.
cheapest solution lol.
turbo87targa said:
I'll make one kit for sell jojojo, of course is not RON performace quality but is work's.
Make your own. Buy from a vendor on here, there are at least a couple who are still making them... Buy one off of ebay. Make an adaptor plate for an aftermarket or stock 2JZ upper runner. Modify the stock one like mentioned.
Any other ways that I'm forgetting?
Any other ways that I'm forgetting?
im talking to a local machine shop and going to take a I/M from an N/A in the junkyard and have him fix it up and reconstruct it and whatnot. 64$ an hour and he says itll only take 4-5 hours tops.
i really dont get how a modified stocker will perform all that well. it was made to have the air enter in the middle of the plenum, not the front. theres no way it will distribute evenly amongst the cylinders. number 6 will starve. same with some of the open plenum sheet metal intakes ive seen- they look ghetto hacked. only one id buy is a ron r. i like the velocity stack idea and they r proven.
supra_ed said:
hahahaha you don't know, because you don't have it :biglaugh: .
and believe me, is not so high performed like Ron, but I can fell the different :evil2: .
I think the advantages is less piping and ovoid pass over the turbo.
thats why i built mine, less piping and no piping over the turbo. the other benefits are being able to run a side to side ic, better throttle response, and of course, it looks much cooler 
supra_ed said:
They guy who made the FFIM out of the stock one had both of them flow tested and it actually flowed more and was more even across the cylinders.
these are some of the main reasons i want one. add to that i dont have to take off my intake to get to my damn spark wires xD and it makes the engine bay look much cleaner.Enraged said:thats why i built mine, less piping and no piping over the turbo. the other benefits are being able to run a side to side ic, better throttle response, and of course, it looks much cooler
i can see better throttle response because of less piping, but thats it. i dont believe it can evenly distribute air acroos all 6. no way it can. toyota (just as any manufacture would) put r & d into the 7m (or 2jz, or any other) manifold design to make sure they would flow evenly. u take that design and alter it, especially a dramatic change like converting it to a front facing, u alter the flow characteristics in a negative way. the 7m intake was not meant (designed) to work that way. thats why carlosptr210 says he feels a difference (throttle response because of shorter piping) but he says its not as good as ron r (because ron designed the intake to take on air and distribute it from the front, unlike a hacked stocker). i will never believe these are efficient. ill just save for a used ron r or wait till i fit my 2jz intake on.
supra_ed said:
This is for information only; I don’t say the RON is not the master OK. :biglaugh:
Not all the RON designs are efficient, and I don't know if is true or not. :sarcasm: ok
If I have the money, of course I will buy one from them, But I don’t have it, so the easy way is do it by my self.:cry:
I use my saving’s to buy a brand new T4 turbo!:evil2:
supra_ed said:
nothing starves in a pressurized system. turbulence may be higher then in a Ron.R manifold but itll still work as good as stock.
When theres pressure applied inside a manifold it is distributed evenly unless there is a restriction before 1 or more cylinders. It wouldn't matter if you believe it or not if someone has proof they flow even.
On a naturally aspirated engine with a modified stocker to be front face, THEN i could see it possibly being a issue.