how rare is a 91 white package?91 prodution number's?
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The Factory Teal Green 1992 with sun roof (not targa) fully loaded manuel turbo & shadow grey (black interior) is about the most rare MKIII supra in the U.S.A. with the exceptions of the foreign JZA70-R, Turbo A, Group A etc.
The rarest oem USA MKIII is still worth ~7500 depending mainly on condition.
I would say the 2nd rarest maybe the brown supra :dunno:
The rarest oem USA MKIII is still worth ~7500 depending mainly on condition.
I would say the 2nd rarest maybe the brown supra :dunno:
This is what I could find on production numbers for the MK3. It doesn't break down into option packages though I hope it helps somewhat. If you find anything like that I would be interested as well. Good luck.
1986.5 Toyota Supra
The third generation Supra was introduced in 1986.5 as a free standing model, officially separating it from the Celica. Whereas the Celica became a front wheel drive sport coupe, the Supra retained its image as a rear-wheel drive sports/GT car. The new Supra would continue to move upscale and become a showcase for Toyota technology. Originally slated as a 1986 model, production delays caused the model to actually be introduced mid year (hence the 1986.5 designation). The all new Supra was powered by a 3.0 liter DOHC inline six cylinder engine rated at 200 bhp. Notable features included an electronically controlled independent suspension (called the Toyota Electronic Modulated Suspension - TEMS), and a removable Sport-Roof panel (Targa top).
Production: 33,283
Engines: 3.0 I6 200 bhp.
1987 Toyota Supra
The first Supra Turbo was introduced in 1987. The inter-cooled, turbo charged version of the 3.0 liter inline 6 cylinder engine boosted power to 230 bhp and 246 lb-ft. The Turbo model also included an engine oil cooler and integrated rear spoiler. The sports package, which was standard on the Turbo and optional on the base model, included a limited slip differential (LSD), TEMS, and headlamp wahers. A new Anti-Lock Braking System (ABS) was optional on both models.
Production: 29,907
Engines: 3.0 I6 200 bhp. 3.0 I6 Turbo 230 bhp, 246 lb-ft.
1988 Toyota Supra
Only minor changes were in store for the 1988 Supra. The base interior was changed from vinyl to cloth. The engines received minor modifications to improve quietness. And the Beige/Brown two-tone paint option was droped.
Production: 19,596
Engines: 3.0 I6 200 bhp. 3.0 I6 Turbo 230 bhp, 246 lb-ft.
1989 Toyota Supra
The Supra received a freshening for 1989 with a new grille, air dam, taillights, and rear spoiler. The Turbo engine was further refined with intake, wastegate, and turbo modifications, good for increases of 2 bhp and 8 lb-ft. Speed sensitive power steering was added and the rear suspension rates were increased. The cruise control moved to the steering wheel spokes.
Production: 14,544
Engines: 3.0 I6 200 bhp. 3.0 I6 Turbo 232 bhp, 254 lb-ft.
1990 Toyota Supra
Only minor changes were in store for 1990. A driver's side airbag was made standard. The cruise control moved back to a column mounted stalk. Fluid filled engine mounts were added for smoothness and the power steering boost was trimmed for more feel at high speeds.
Production: 6,419
Engines: 3.0 I6 200 bhp. 3.0 I6 Turbo 232 bhp, 254 lb-ft.
1991 Toyota Supra
New five-spoke wheels with Goodyear GS-D Z-rated tires are made standard, along with ABS on Turbo models. An out-sliding power sunroof is made optional, the Sport Roof and pop-up sunroof are still available.
Production: 3,623
Engines: 3.0 I6 200 bhp. 3.0 I6 Turbo 232 bhp, 254 lb-ft.
1992 Toyota Supra
Year 1992 marked the last year of the third generation. The Automatic transmission shift points were revised. A ten-speaker stereo system with the ETR/Cassette/CD system was made optional.
Production: 1,193
Engines: 3.0 I6 200 bhp. 3.0 I6 Turbo 232 bhp, 254 lb-ft.
1986.5 Toyota Supra
The third generation Supra was introduced in 1986.5 as a free standing model, officially separating it from the Celica. Whereas the Celica became a front wheel drive sport coupe, the Supra retained its image as a rear-wheel drive sports/GT car. The new Supra would continue to move upscale and become a showcase for Toyota technology. Originally slated as a 1986 model, production delays caused the model to actually be introduced mid year (hence the 1986.5 designation). The all new Supra was powered by a 3.0 liter DOHC inline six cylinder engine rated at 200 bhp. Notable features included an electronically controlled independent suspension (called the Toyota Electronic Modulated Suspension - TEMS), and a removable Sport-Roof panel (Targa top).
Production: 33,283
Engines: 3.0 I6 200 bhp.
1987 Toyota Supra
The first Supra Turbo was introduced in 1987. The inter-cooled, turbo charged version of the 3.0 liter inline 6 cylinder engine boosted power to 230 bhp and 246 lb-ft. The Turbo model also included an engine oil cooler and integrated rear spoiler. The sports package, which was standard on the Turbo and optional on the base model, included a limited slip differential (LSD), TEMS, and headlamp wahers. A new Anti-Lock Braking System (ABS) was optional on both models.
Production: 29,907
Engines: 3.0 I6 200 bhp. 3.0 I6 Turbo 230 bhp, 246 lb-ft.
1988 Toyota Supra
Only minor changes were in store for the 1988 Supra. The base interior was changed from vinyl to cloth. The engines received minor modifications to improve quietness. And the Beige/Brown two-tone paint option was droped.
Production: 19,596
Engines: 3.0 I6 200 bhp. 3.0 I6 Turbo 230 bhp, 246 lb-ft.
1989 Toyota Supra
The Supra received a freshening for 1989 with a new grille, air dam, taillights, and rear spoiler. The Turbo engine was further refined with intake, wastegate, and turbo modifications, good for increases of 2 bhp and 8 lb-ft. Speed sensitive power steering was added and the rear suspension rates were increased. The cruise control moved to the steering wheel spokes.
Production: 14,544
Engines: 3.0 I6 200 bhp. 3.0 I6 Turbo 232 bhp, 254 lb-ft.
1990 Toyota Supra
Only minor changes were in store for 1990. A driver's side airbag was made standard. The cruise control moved back to a column mounted stalk. Fluid filled engine mounts were added for smoothness and the power steering boost was trimmed for more feel at high speeds.
Production: 6,419
Engines: 3.0 I6 200 bhp. 3.0 I6 Turbo 232 bhp, 254 lb-ft.
1991 Toyota Supra
New five-spoke wheels with Goodyear GS-D Z-rated tires are made standard, along with ABS on Turbo models. An out-sliding power sunroof is made optional, the Sport Roof and pop-up sunroof are still available.
Production: 3,623
Engines: 3.0 I6 200 bhp. 3.0 I6 Turbo 232 bhp, 254 lb-ft.
1992 Toyota Supra
Year 1992 marked the last year of the third generation. The Automatic transmission shift points were revised. A ten-speaker stereo system with the ETR/Cassette/CD system was made optional.
Production: 1,193
Engines: 3.0 I6 200 bhp. 3.0 I6 Turbo 232 bhp, 254 lb-ft.
Evilempire1.3JZ-GTE;1036131 said:
C'mon man! That's pretty neg.
I don't know if you are kidding (I didn't see the :sarcasm
but that kind of p.r. isn't helping Supras appreciate, in dollars or admiration. I'm not trying to start shit or tell you how to think, but maybe if we raised our level of expectation and appreciation it might help Mkiii's level of respect (and $ value).
Sorry, but I fuckin' cringe everytime I hear owners so eager to jump into the "Mkiii's aren't worth shit" dialogue. :nono:
Not as rare as my 1992 White Package Sunroof 5-Speed...:sarcasm:
Still rare though compared to most of the Mk3's.
Still rare though compared to most of the Mk3's.
suprabad;1036141 said:C'mon man! That's pretty neg.
I don't know if you are kidding (I didn't see the :sarcasm
I'm not trying to start shit or tell you how to think, but maybe if we raised our level of expectation and appreciation it might help Mkiii's level of respect (and $ value).
Sorry, but I fuckin' cringe everytime I hear owners so eager to jump into the "Mkiii's aren't worth shit" dialogue. :nono:
I have to agree with your thinking here. I feel that the MK3 owners are willing to give up their cars for way too cheap most of the time. Maybe this will change as they become even more rare. I hope it does. I paid top dollar for my 92 with no hesitation and no regrets. I knew what I wanted and I knew how many were out there in that kind of condition.
tsuper92;1036150 said:red92 thats what i was looking for as a base line.hard to believe my 92 is one of not even 1200
That's the main reason I wanted a 92, last year for the MK3 and lowest of the production numbers. My thinking was it may eventually appreciate over time. :dunno:
suprabad;1036141 said:C'mon man! That's pretty neg.
I don't know if you are kidding (I didn't see the :sarcasm
I'm not trying to start shit or tell you how to think, but maybe if we raised our level of expectation and appreciation it might help Mkiii's level of respect (and $ value).
Sorry, but I fuckin' cringe everytime I hear owners so eager to jump into the "Mkiii's aren't worth shit" dialogue. :nono:
I think negative PR on forums doesn't have nearly as much of an affect as the fact that most mk3's are heaps of shit. When most people think of the mk3, they think of the rusty 87's you see on the road with blown shocks, purple peeling tint, messed up stock wheels, etc. When most people own the mk3, they think of blown headgaskets and rod knock. Just because 1% of them ended up in the hands of enthusiasts who have circumvented these issues, doesn't mean the public is going to change their opinion about what is essentially a car that only 1% of the population can keep running correctly, let alone looking good.
Furthermore, $7500 for a $35000 flagship car is not that bad. I just sold my 2000 Mercedes C230 Kompressor sedan for $7500, and that was a $40,000 car that's 8 years younger, original owner, as clean as it gets, and even included original brochure and window sticker. You can now get a 2003 S55 AMG (originally $120k) for around $30k. Try whining about depreciation to that crowd. Automotive depreciation is a fact of life, and the fact that a clean '92 can fetch 20% of its original retail value after 16 years is pretty damn amazing for a car that you essentially have to re-engineer to make decent.
-Ray
Here are the production numbers by gen and year:
http://www.toyotareference.com/#SU
edit: Only the colour reference on this page.
http://www.toyotareference.com/#SU
edit: Only the colour reference on this page.
Evilempire1.3JZ-GTE;1036131 said:
Hell, I bought my nearly "rarest of the rare" (automatic transmission from the factory) with 83K miles for $5500 4.5 years ago. A paintjob and 5-speed swap later, I wouldn't part with it for less than $10K. I can't even see myself selling it to be honest, but then again I can't see anyone actually offering that much cash.
Hate to break it to you guys...
But the Super Monitor equipped in my '88 keeps the value of my car up.
I'll accept $32,000, and nothing less.
***Holds head high and walks away*** :biglaugh:
Jeff
But the Super Monitor equipped in my '88 keeps the value of my car up.
I'll accept $32,000, and nothing less.
***Holds head high and walks away*** :biglaugh:
Jeff
Among the Pre92 Supras arent the Two Tone Paint Options as rare as some of the 92 Models?
My two tone paint scheme was only offered in 88 i think that would put it up there with the other rare combo supras.
Its fully loaded except leather, 5spd, and cd player.
My two tone paint scheme was only offered in 88 i think that would put it up there with the other rare combo supras.
Its fully loaded except leather, 5spd, and cd player.
There's definitely a large gap between rare and sought-after. Sadly, I don't think any MK3's will be the later. Buying a MK3 with with intentions of it appreciating is pretty funny, though. Unless you grab one with extremely low miles and hardy ever drive it, it's probably going to take many years to appreciate any worthwhile amount.