How do you guys feel about this?

drunk_medic

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"FEMA cards bought diamonds, erotica
GAO finds $1 billion in potentially fraudulent disaster relief

Tuesday, June 13, 2006; Posted: 11:00 p.m. EDT (03:00 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Problems with the distribution of federal disaster assistance after hurricanes Katrina and Rita caused potential fraud and waste topping $1 billion, an audit by the Government Accountability Office found.

Debit cards given to people displaced by the storms were improperly used to buy diamond jewelry, a vacation in the Dominican Republic, fireworks, a $200 bottle of champagne at a Hooters in San Antonio and $300 worth of "Girls Gone Wild" videos, the audit found.

According to the GAO, $1,000 from a FEMA debit card went to a Houston divorce lawyer, $600 was spent in a strip club and $400 was spent on "adult erotica products," all of which auditors concluded were "not necessary to satisfy legitimate disaster needs."

The GAO concluded that at least $1 billion in disaster relief payments by the Federal Emergency Management Agency were improper and potentially fraudulent because the recipients provided incomplete or incorrect information when they registered for assistance.

And the GAO said the scope of the problem may be even larger, because it only looked at the validity of registration information and not at other forms of potential fraud.

FEMA spokesman Aaron Walker on Tuesday told The Associated Press that the agency's priority in a disaster is "to get help quickly to those in desperate need of our assistance."

"Even as we put victims first, we take very seriously our responsibility to be outstanding stewards of taxpayer dollars, and we are careful to make sure that funds are distributed appropriately," Walker told the AP.

The agency told the AP it has found more than 1,500 cases of potential fraud after the hurricanes and has taken those cases to the Homeland Security inspector general.

The GAO also found that FEMA provided housing assistance to people who were not displaced, including at least 1,000 prison inmates, and also provided rental assistance to people who were simultaneously living in free hotel rooms.

Results of the GAO's audit will be presented Wednesday to an investigative panel of the House Homeland Security Committee. FEMA is part of the Department of Homeland Security.

The GAO also found that FEMA lost track of 750 debit cards, worth a total of $1.5 million.

After inquiries from the GAO, FEMA recovered about half of that money, which had not been distributed by JPMorgan Chase, the bank hired to run the program. But the agency still cannot account for 381 cards, worth about $760,000 total, which JPMorgan Chase says it distributed, according to the GAO.

GAO investigators estimated that 16 percent of FEMA's disaster relief payments were made to people who submitted invalid registrations, to the tune of about $1 billion. However, because the figures were calculated using a statistical sample, the agency said the amount could range from $600 million to as much as $1.4 billion.

Among the problems found with the registrations, according to the GAO study:

# People signed up for assistance using Social Security numbers that didn't exist or belonged to other people.

# Aid applications contained bogus addresses for damaged property, or gave addresses for damaged property where the applicants did not live when the hurricanes struck. In one case, FEMA paid nearly $2,360 to a man whose allegedly damaged property was in a cemetery.

# Payments were made to people who listed post office boxes as their damaged residences.

# People submitted duplicate registrations, which FEMA did not detect.

# More than 1,000 registrations used the names and Social Security numbers of prison inmates. According to the GAO, in one instance, FEMA paid $20,000 to a Louisiana prisoner who listed a post office box as his damaged property.

As part of its audit, the GAO used an undercover registrant who submitted a vacant lot as a damaged address.

FEMA paid the registrant $6,000 and even made payments after being notified by one its own inspectors, as well as an inspector for the Small Business Administration, that the damaged property could not be found, the GAO investigators found.

The GAO concluded that the potentially fraudulent payments occurred because FEMA did not validate the identity of registrants and the locations and ownership of purportedly damaged property before it began making payments.

While conceding that FEMA acted out of the need to provide assistance quickly, GAO investigators concluded the agency's own policies required additional verification before continuing payments.

The GAO study also found FEMA improperly provided rental assistance to people who were staying in hotels paid for by FEMA because the agency did not require hotels to collect Social Security numbers and FEMA registration information.

Without that information, FEMA could not verify if people were staying in hotels when they applied for rental assistance.

And because that information doesn't exist, GAO auditors said they could not determine how many people might have double-dipped -- or how much it cost the government."
 

drunk_medic

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I don't want to hear about how "the system is broken" - I want to hear how you feel about the integrity of the people who used these vouchers.
 

ross1

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it seems to me it's becoming "the new american way" to get as much as you can for as little work as possible. fraud is the easiest way to do it, stories like this is why we look so stupid to the rest of the world. first, who pays money to inmates anyway. second, as far as paying for people in the damaged areas i thought we shoulda helped the people farther away first as they didn't expect to get hit and move towards the more ravaged places that got hit as those people were the fuckin retards that chose to stay even after being warned of the impending danger. either way fema should have double checked these applications before sending out money...

ross

oh yeah and the system is broken
 

Stretch

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This is only gonna affect the next time something bad happens. Why will people want to help next time after this bs? Ya I'll help, but only if I can give the money to the people myself and watch them buy clothes/food with it :icon_razz
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Supracentral

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It's living proof that losers are losers. I'll bet you considerable amounts of money that you will find that the bulk of these FEMA cards were handed out the bottom of the barrel. The people who didn't work before the hurricane, and were already living off the government.

A=A
 

Supra

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Good thing I don't live in NewOrleans. That list would have included "guy spent $4,000 at Champion Toyota." :biglaugh:
 

Greg55_99

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drunk_medic said:
I don't want to hear about how "the system is broken" - I want to hear how you feel about the integrity of the people who used these vouchers.

Hey DM,
Whether you want to hear it or not, the system for dealing with people who have lived through natural disasters IS broken. The people that turned in these vouchers with phony ID's and bogus info MUST be punished. But... look at the story:

"GAO investigators estimated that 16 percent of FEMA's disaster relief payments were made to people who submitted invalid registrations, to the tune of about $1 billion. However, because the figures were calculated using a statistical sample, the agency said the amount could range from $600 million to as much as $1.4 billion."

OK, 16%. That means the OTHER 84% (if I'm doing my math correctly) went to the people with valid registrations. Is 16% a high number? Yep, you bet. But, like they say, "Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater". This is the first time in my memory (and it goes back pretty far) that a major American city has been pretty much wiped out by a natural disaster. A lot of things were done wrong, but a lot of things were done right as well. I'd prefer to help our own than send the money overseas. I got no problem with that. So before this thread turns into a "lets trash those welfare cheaters in New Orleans" kind of thing, think about this:

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/01/30/iraq.audit/

Greg
 

supra90turbo

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thanks for that smiley, Tanya... it's so great!
 

SupraMario

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Supracentral said:
It's living proof that losers are losers. I'll bet you considerable amounts of money that you will find that the bulk of these FEMA cards were handed out the bottom of the barrel. The people who didn't work before the hurricane, and were already living off the government.

A=A

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The truth right here, the losers will always be losers. they dont want to better themselves.
 

drunk_medic

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Greg55_99 said:
Hey DM,
Whether you want to hear it or not, the system for dealing with people who have lived through natural disasters IS broken.

The reason I asked for people to concentrate on their fellow man and not the system is because we all KNOW that there are problems inherent with something so newly implemented, and in a panic scenario at that. Lying, cheating, stealing politicians cannot be seen everyday, except through media sources, but your fellow man stares you in the face for a good part of the day. I wanted reaction to thoughts about that, because I am tired of hearing people complain and argue about the government, and I didn't want this post to be about that.