help me solve this driveshaft argument

[tweak666]

i'm deep into a auto to manual swap, and have hit a wall. from what i've read on the forums, the swap requires a 5 speed driveshaft. my father and uncle say i can use the auto shaft. i thought i had read something about them being different. has anyone heard of a swap where the driveshaft wasn't changed?

 

[Yellow 13]

lengths are diffenrent from what Ive heard.

 

[GotBoost?]

Yup. Different lenghts.

 

[GuNDeZZZ]

Yup. Different lenghts.

+1

edit

post # 300 sweet lol

 

[swaq]

edit

post # 300 sweet lol

n00b :icon_razz

 

[AF1JZ]

IIRC, you just have to get the front section of a 5 speed driveshaft to make it work.

 

[forcefedsupra]

If you can afford it, get a one piece made for around $200. You just have to have a 5 speed shaft to take to the shop for reference.

 

[rumptis]

I have helped with 2 Auto to 5 Speed swaps.

You have to use the 5 Speed Drive Shaft.

 

[supramike7m]

IIRC, you just have to get the front section of a 5 speed driveshaft to make it work.

correct, the back half is the same.

 

[GuNDeZZZ]

n00b :icon_razz

jerk.....















lol

 

[supraguy@aol]

IIRC, Horsepower freaks is having a clearance sale on auto to 5spd conversion one-piece driveshafts. Check it:

http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53512

 

[shaeff]

for a long time, i wanted a 1pc driveshaft. now i don't. too much risk involved, methinks. i'll stick with my heavy 2 piece and aluminum flywheel.

-shaeff

 

[pimptrizkit]

i thought the autp shaft was a little on the long side iirc, but auto and turbo 5spd are the same spline on the yoke. but you want full mesh and dont want to bottom out the yoke on the final drive of the tranny

 

[ViR2]

shaeff, could you enlighten us about those risks? Whats wrong with 1-piece?

 

[mkIIIman089]

Essentially the worry is, if you drive an insane speeds for very long periods of time the DS will start to whip and eventually break.

 

[supraman7mgte]

by using a 1 piece drive shaft your reducing alot of rotational mass,but there are arguments as to which is best. i would think that heavy duty one would be best for racing as it would be more robust for the major hp being thrown at it. i'm sure someone will post a more enlightend reply.

 

[Poodles]

paging IJ...

there is a reason we came with a 2-piece driveshaft. It would have been far cheaper to go 1-piece for toyota, but the high speeds these cars of capable of, the length of the driveshaft, and the gearing that's used is a recipe for disaster.

Toyota overbuilds their stuff very well (thank god), and this was well calculated.

 

[pimptrizkit]

paging IJ...

there is a reason we came with a 2-piece driveshaft. It would have been far cheaper to go 1-piece for toyota, but the high speeds these cars of capable of, the length of the driveshaft, and the gearing that's used is a recipe for disaster.

Toyota overbuilds their stuff very well (thank god), and this was well calculated.

prolly so if any u-joints did snap it wouldn't send the shaft through the floor board or the ass end into the air.

but those are just my thoughts,

ps, i have seen both from a 1peice at the same time, it beat throught the floor board then stuck to the asfualt, cause it broke at the trany. scary shit. at 70+mph

 

[Poodles]

the 2-piece would still do that sadly...

but the 2-piece is nicer on the U-joints because the angles don't have to be perfect (like a 1-piece)

 

[pimptrizkit]

yeah it would, but i would imagine the 2peice would fold under the car faster and snap off, or atleast wouldn't shove the rear end as high when it sticks to the ground.