H.I.D Headlights..whoes running them?

lilazni3uoy

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my setup

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custom retrofit h.i.d

projectors of choice, infinity fx for the bixenon benifits, modified 3" clear lense for the sharper cutoff line, and more color band/blue/purple

and these projectors BARLEY fit with out chopping of the core support, i barley got these guys in there with the stock headlight motor, or any other modifications, if i would have got a tl or other projectors it will not clear my option was to not hack up the core support
 
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racingtoyota007

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Well i have eyes and i can actually see the road with OEM style head lights so i dont have any lol. And i hate it when people are blinding me at night so i dont like to blind back :)
 

lilazni3uoy

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racingtoyota007 said:
Well i have eyes and i can actually see the road with OEM style head lights so i dont have any lol. And i hate it when people are blinding me at night so i dont like to blind back :)


i use to have mccolluch h.i.d kit 6000k with hella h4 200mm housings reason i got rid of them cuase people hi beam me back because they think i am hi-beaming them, thats why i went with oem projectors
 

Clip

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people around here get pissed at me for my silverstars on low beam, im not sure how i'd survive with HIDs
 

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Clip said:
people around here get pissed at me for my silverstars on low beam, im not sure how i'd survive with HIDs


thats why i got the oe, cause i can still use the stock headlight adjuster, as long as my lights don't hit eye level on the mirrors i'm set, intense light for me but not for people ahead of me
 

HIDPLANET

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You guys dont seem to understand the difference between GLARE and controlled lighting. Reason why HID Kits get the flash from other drivers is because the 7x6 headlights are intended for halogens and sticking in a HID Kit intensifies the light source and tends to scatter light all over the place, causing glare and pissing off others.

As you can see, above in the retrofitted headlights, the beam pattern is very flat and controlled. This means you arent putting light into other drivers eyes but yet placing all that light onto the ground generating much useable light.

Ever sit in a BMW with HID projectors? Its like a police chopper shining the light in front of you.

Example:
McCulloch HID Kit vs Retrofit:

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racingtoyota007

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Clip said:
people around here get pissed at me for my silverstars on low beam, im not sure how i'd survive with HIDs
i have silver stars also, i dont seem to have very many problems with it but i have them aimed custom lol. Around here lots of people have those HID god i just wana fucking punch them in the face, it almost makes me run of the roads here. its annoying.
 

Zazzn

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I've been running HID's since the beginning of summer... I LOVE THEM... I HID planet, stop talking garbage, they work just great in my Hella H4 conversion lamps and they look even better.

Silversupra, they are acutally cheaper then 325 now if you want them. that is if you want them form me. I sold about 8 sets to the toronto supra club guys and everyone that has them loves them.

I love my set, and I would NEVER EVER go back to regular silverstars or anything.
 

HIDPLANET

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Well using quality conversion headlamps like Hella e-code, narva or cibie will produce good results because they are designed with quality and light control in mind. But just like with halogen lamps, many people go with those cheap aftermarket diamond cut chinesse made headlights and those definatly do not put out good beam patterns with HID or halogens. They are just made to look clear and nice but have no performance in mind.

If you use a Kit or use OE parts inside a good quality conversion lamp, it can yield good results.

Just stay away from Kits that do NOT use Hella or Philips ballasts because the cheap aftermarket brands fail prematurely. You can not argue this point as I have been in the HID business for many years now and do know about all the kits that come out of China and Korea and they are definatly junk.
 

xscurry

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I have been running HID headlamps for over 3 years now. My setup consists of Hella E-code housings, Philips capsules, Denso slim ballasts, Casper's shields and a custom made wiring harness. I put it together myself. There is still a little glare but I have aimed it slightly lower to compensate.

I previously had Hella/Philips ballasts but one went out and made the switch to Denso.

HIDPLANET - I have been registered on the HIDPLANET forums also. But, I do not post much - just look at the really nice retrofits some of the members have done.

The BMW HID's are ok, but the 2005+ Lexus adaptive HID headlamps :love: :love:
 
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bigaaron

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Zazzn said:
I've been running HID's since the beginning of summer... I LOVE THEM... I HID planet, stop talking garbage, they work just great in my Hella H4 conversion lamps and they look even better.

He is not talking garbage, he is explaining the difference between the cheap stuff and the good stuff. Just because it is bright white does not mean it is making a good beam pattern that makes the best use of the light output and does not piss off other people. It can be dangerous to have lights that blind other drivers, what if you are on a winding 2 lane road? I have seen the difference and the ones HID planet sells will make yours like crap if you parked both cars side by side. The difference is in the reflector. The way hid bulbs make light requires a special reflector to focus it correctly.
 

Zazzn

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HIDPLANET said:
Well using quality conversion headlamps like Hella e-code, narva or cibie will produce good results because they are designed with quality and light control in mind. But just like with halogen lamps, many people go with those cheap aftermarket diamond cut chinesse made headlights and those definatly do not put out good beam patterns with HID or halogens. They are just made to look clear and nice but have no performance in mind.

If you use a Kit or use OE parts inside a good quality conversion lamp, it can yield good results.

Just stay away from Kits that do NOT use Hella or Philips ballasts because the cheap aftermarket brands fail prematurely. You can not argue this point as I have been in the HID business for many years now and do know about all the kits that come out of China and Korea and they are definatly junk.

Yes I agree, but don't be fooled to think the philips aren't made in china as well.. it's just some places have higher Quality buliding standards... they all come form the same place though....

BTW many times alot of the cheap ones are just rebadged philips ect.
 

Zazzn

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bigaaron said:
He is not talking garbage, he is explaining the difference between the cheap stuff and the good stuff. Just because it is bright white does not mean it is making a good beam pattern that makes the best use of the light output and does not piss off other people. It can be dangerous to have lights that blind other drivers, what if you are on a winding 2 lane road? I have seen the difference and the ones HID planet sells will make yours like crap if you parked both cars side by side. The difference is in the reflector. The way hid bulbs make light requires a special reflector to focus it correctly.

The reflector usually comes with the acutal hosing OR the lightbulb...
on my h4 bulbs they have a reflector... I may cut it off since my Hella housings already have a proper reflector in there.
 

HIDPLANET

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Dont cut out the shield, it really does help a lot to cut down glare.
The point of a glare shield is to stop light from hitting the bottom portion of your housing which causes light to travel upwards, where you do not want it. It keeps the light on the upper half of the reflectors which translates to light on the ground and not shooting upwards.

Like I said, a good quality H4 conversion headlamp like Hella or Cibie can yield good results with OE or aftermarket HID solutions. This is because they really do a good job focusing the light in the proper places. Those sheap diamond clears are what you want to stay away from.

Obviously, you can use a H4 HID Kit inside these lamps for a decent beam, its the quality of the bulb and electronics (ballast and ignitor) that is a concern. Many fail within 2 years and even though retailers claim there is a 2-3 year warranty period from the manufacturer, they make it very hard to honor them and leave the warranty to the dealers who most of the time dont want to honor them out of their own pockets.
 

Zazzn

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yes I knew this hence why i bought them ;)

Worked much better with my silverstars then the stockers... then the HIDS where like night and day.
 

RHDMK3

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I'am using a RAYBRIG H4 Crystal headlight conversion with some 5700K Bulbs. I'am gonna upgrade to some PIAA 8000K bulbs though. I dont really like my current set of bulbs. not very bright in crappy weather...
 

HIDPLANET

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And you think 8000K will be better?
I suggest you do some reading on lighting.
The 8000K bulbs will just be bluer and dimmer on the road.
If you want more useable light, use between 4100K and 6000K (preferable 5000K for some color and decent output) and you should be happy.

If you have ever sat inside a car that comes with HID from the factory, you will see that the light output is amazing and they all use 4100K reguardless of what some will tell you.
 

RHDMK3

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Well I've driven cars with HID's before. My old man's 05 Acura TL has them and thay are awesome. My current ones are 5700K and they dont really light up the road the way that my PIAA's did in my Civic when I had that. They burned at almost 6000K iirc. What I want is good lighting without spending a fortune. But I guess you get what you pay for right?
 

HIDPLANET

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Yes you do get what you pay for but also remember there are a number of things that determine output performance other than the color temp. The housing design is obviously the first and most important thing. A bad headlight housing will have a bad output no matter what kind of HID you use.

The other most important thing is quality of the components. Chinese and Korean made parts vary in color temp and output performance. Even their pairs of bulbs typically wont output the same color temp because of poor (or non-existant) quality control at the manufacturer.

BTW Piaa doesnt make their own products. They contract Denso to get them ballasts (same ones that come stock in all Toyotas) and use Philips Bulbs and re-badges them with the PIAA name. This is why its a good system because they use OEM equipment.