Guaging interest...PNP Microtech standalone ECU's

becauseican

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I have a chance to get some great deals on Microtech standalone ECU's, possibly even a Group Buy. How many of you would be interested?. They would be the LT10 or LT12 units for 1JZ, 2JZ and 7MGTE, but other applications would also be available. I would offer installations, tuning, and Plug and Play or custom harness too. Here is a quick run down of the systems:

The LT series provides users with the fine tunability usually only found in high end ECU's while still retaining MicroTech's distinct price advantage over all it's competitors.

LT4, LT8S and LT12S come from our factory with a pre-programmed base map to suit your particular engine, greatly simpifying the installation and start up process. Once the unit is wired into the vehicle correctly, simply turn the key & the car will start and run well enough to be driven to your closest tuning shop for final tuning.

All LT's can be fined tuned either by the hand controller or by laptop making the system perfect for the 1st time tuner or the professional racer.

Another major advantage of the MicroTech is it's ability to use the factory engine sensors. No more drilling, tapping, modifying or making special brackets to fit aftermarket sensors. A job that is compulsory with almost all other aftermarket management systems.

And to top it all off, all MicroTech products are covered by a 12 month material and workmanship warranty in the unlikely case of a problem. So whether you are looking for improved performance, better fuel economy or simply the luxury of having a fully adjustable ECU fitted to your vehicle, the MicroTech will give you all the features you could possibly ask for without the hassle and expense of our competition.

Here is a rundown of what this unit can do and the options available:

Microtech LT-10 & LT-12
Specification sheet:

Kit Contents:
ECU
Flying Lead Wiring Loom (labeled)
Vacuum Hose
Fuel Pump Relay
Fuse Holder
Technical Manual / Booklet

General:
Weight 500gm
Extruded Aluminum case
1 Year Warranty
32 Bit Motorola Processor
Surface Mount technology board
Supports up to 8cyl and 2 rotor engines
Max readable RPM 15950
Max readable boost with standard map sensor :- 25psi
(30psi & 45psi versions avail as an option)

Fuel Delivery:
4 Injector Drivers capable of 4 amp peak hold. (6 for the LT12 model)
True sequential operation on 4 cylinder and rotary applications
Run up to 4 high impedance injectors per driver
Tuneable in MAP or TPS mode or combination of both.
RPM tuning range currently every 500rpm to 9000rpm (12000rpm software option available)

Fuel Delivery Cont:
Auxiliary Input correction +-99%
Coolant temp correction
Air temp correction
Accelerator pump amount, sensitivity and Time compensation
Cranking enrichment correction
After start enrichment correction
Cold Start accelerator pump correction
Hard cut RPM limiter
Soft cut RPM Limiter
Over boost Limiter
Sequential, Group fire and Staged/Group fire modes

Ignition:
4 Ignition drivers (6 for the LT12 model)
Ignition setup preconfigured for engine type.
Configurable for 1-8 cyl engines using an external igniter
Configurable for twin distributors and 2 rotor engines
16 Ignition RPM sites (upgradeable to user definable number. Software update will be available mid 2006)
16 Map corrections (upgradeable to user definable number. Software upgrade will be available mid 2006)
16 water temp correction points
16 air temp correction points
Ignition advance/retard on accelerator pump
Ignition advance/retard on aux input trigger
Ignition Trim overall +-45deg
Ignition TDC reference adjustment on some applications
Ignition timing split adjustable on rotary applications
Accuracy to .25 degree

Aux inputs and outputs:
Standard features include One 12V Aux input
One –ve switched Aux output triggered by RPM, Map, water temp

Aux Input cont:
One PWM output to run idle stepper motor control
Aux input can be configured to run Anti-lag, Mixture trim, Timing trim etc.

Diagnostics:
Red LED indicated Fault code triggered
Data Page indicates where fault lies

Operational errors:
Over boost, RPM Limit, RPM Cut, MAX, Duty, Water temp, Voltage, Shift Light
Self Test Mode runs all injectors and ignition and cycles aux outputs
Amber LED gives Visual of ignition input signal
Green LED gives visual of power on.

Programming/ Tuning:
Using Laptop adapter and software
Using Handset or DASH unit

Sensors:
Configured to suit application when ordered.

Data logging and map storage:
On board “ECU-Log” Holds 5 minutes of memory . User definable switching on and off point.
Data Log to Memory (Laptop) 100 samples per second
Viewed Data Log displays average readings 10 times per second
Data log viewable in text or Graph
Playback data log
Print data log
Laptop logging standard. ECU logging optional & must be requested when ordering
Save data log to disc
4 Maps saveable to laptop adapter or handset



Randy
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Rennat

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Whats the starting price point for 5 people? 10 people?
I like the idea of a "plug and play" engine management... and what are the ports on the standalone that you hook up to the laptop to use?

and OEM sensors and wires is FTW
 

Doward

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Hang on, I'm going to look into these a bit before I say yay or nay.

*edit*

http://microtechefi.com/

Looks like the LT12s would be the way to go for us - also, seems to be fairly complete setup.

Personally, I want to do away with the stock CPS. I prefer a crank reading for accurate timing ;)
 

Rennat

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i actually just went to the site, and the prices on there are 1,000+....
sooo i dont know.... it would depend if it includes stuff like a wideband sensor and all of that to make it "plug and play"... because i dont see why i would spend over 1,000 and then have to go and get a wideband... if thats the case i'll get maft pro and buy a 5-wire o2 sensor so i can set my ARF tracking... haha
 

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actaully the LT10 would be perfect as the 7m is waste fire setup anyway. Otherwise, if you go with the LT12, that ECU price goes up because now you have to add, rewiring for sequential fuel AND ignition. New Ignition module that is not multiplexed like stock OEM 7M-GTE ignition.

As always

PnP does not mean Plug in and drive the crap out of it.
 

turbodriz

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I need to here more feed back from other members before I can say ya or na. I know about tunning ( in a nut shell) but don't know much about these different systems and they're user compatiability. For the price though and the use of the stock sensors u have my attention.:naughty:
 

Buddafucco

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Great price for what it is. Seems a little too basic though. Seems like it's missing some maps & stuff that would make daily driving (& shooting down the track) more reliable. I downloaded the software and it won't let me check everything out without plugging into the actual hardware. At that price it is pretty tempting to see how it does in real world situations.
It is kind of scary that all the cars on their website are full race cars.
 
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figgie;950276 said:
actaully the LT10 would be perfect as the 7m is waste fire setup anyway. Otherwise, if you go with the LT12, that ECU price goes up because now you have to add, rewiring for sequential fuel AND ignition. New Ignition module that is not multiplexed like stock OEM 7M-GTE ignition.

As always

PnP does not mean Plug in and drive the crap out of it.

In regards to the PnP, it's never a plug in and go ;) It is however nice to have another option.

Duane
 

foreverpsycotic

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There are a few Microtech users here on this forum, maybe they would be able to lend some assistance. It seems to be a popular choice for the drag cars in Puerto Rico.
 

becauseican

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I know of quite a few cars here locally rn the Microtech system, in fact Don (Van Supra) runs it on his 7m and he is making 650+ whp on a street car, and another shop just tuned a 1jz Cressida that made 660 ish whp, and is a street car too.

For the price and what it can do its hard to beat, and like most things "You get what you pay for", obviosly it wont have every option like a Motec or Autronic.

The basic ECU units are pre-programed for a particular engine, and have base maps that will allow you to start and drive the car, but they will still requier proper tuning. There is about 15-20 wires that need to hooked up, but they splice into your existing engine harness, which can normally be done in an hour or so. I am looking into making an actual PNP harness, but that will be an extra cost, and we are trying to locate the proper plugs to use the stock ecu plugs.

The LT10 will be waste spark, batch fire injectors, as it has 4 drivers. The LT12 can do sequential ignition and injection, but it is at a slightly higher cost.

I will have more info and exact pricing soon.

Randy
 

NashMan

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LT12 will save you money in the long run as well vs lt10 shitty batch fire

reson being is the lt10 more or less pools gas wheil the vavle is still closed wiht out gettgin really far into it it will be worst on gas and give you no improvment

my old tec 2 was this way and one reson why i got rid of it
 

VanSupra

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Yes as Randy said I am currently running a MicroTech EMS.. LT 10s infact with a reprogramed 45lb map on stock coils and an x6 ignition amplifier.. 723 rwhp to be exact@31lbs but was out the other day and was hitting 2.27 bar on a couple of pulls nice and clean..You do the math. Though not as many options as Motech, AEM and the likes I think depending on your style of driving it's a good bang for the buck.JMO for now...

LT12 will save you money in the long run as well vs lt10 shitty batch fire

reson being is the lt10 more or less pools gas wheil the vavle is still closed wiht out gettgin really far into it it will be worst on gas and give you no improvment[qoute]

Ryan, technically speaking, I'm sure this is exactly what you were thinking when you were in my car @ WOT giggling like a little school girl with a brown patch in her panties..lol..Anyways the door is wide open for me to possibly install a larger frame turbo in the future and spin my little 3L into it's much deserved glory. That is all for now.

:)
 

NashMan

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VanSupra;951113 said:
Yes as Randy said I am currently running a MicroTech EMS.. LT 10s infact with a reprogramed 45lb map on stock coils and an x6 ignition amplifier.. 723 rwhp to be exact@31lbs but was out the other day and was hitting 2.27 bar on a couple of pulls nice and clean..You do the math. Though not as many options as Motech, AEM and the likes I think depending on your style of driving it's a good bang for the buck.JMO for now...

LT12 will save you money in the long run as well vs lt10 shitty batch fire

reson being is the lt10 more or less pools gas wheil the vavle is still closed wiht out gettgin really far into it it will be worst on gas and give you no improvment[qoute]

Ryan, technically speaking, I'm sure this is exactly what you were thinking when you were in my car @ WOT giggling like a little school girl with a brown patch in her panties..lol..Anyways the door is wide open for me to possibly install a larger frame turbo in the future and spin my little 3L into it's much deserved glory. That is all for now.

:)

both will do the same pretty much just the 12 will be better on gas in the long run

thats all
 

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NashMan;951127 said:
VanSupra;951113 said:
Yes as Randy said I am currently running a MicroTech EMS.. LT 10s infact with a reprogramed 45lb map on stock coils and an x6 ignition amplifier.. 723 rwhp to be exact@31lbs but was out the other day and was hitting 2.27 bar on a couple of pulls nice and clean..You do the math. Though not as many options as Motech, AEM and the likes I think depending on your style of driving it's a good bang for the buck.JMO for now...



both will do the same pretty much just the 12 will be better on gas in the long run

thats all

I agree, and was going to go with the 12 but for some reason they sent back a 10. Anyways I guess I should be complaing about mileage as every fill up is costing me about $245 a tank at the moment..YeeeeeeeeHaaaaaaaaaa

:)