Flateric;1460539 said:
Because you broke one from a piece of debris flying through your exhaust is a reason to not buy *the best* turbos on the market? Okay...
GT4088R, lost after 80KM of use. Bad luck.
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Because you broke one from a piece of debris flying through your exhaust is a reason to not buy *the best* turbos on the market? Okay...
LMAO^
is deadbolt still aorund? they were big into turbo rebuilds/ upgrades on the scoobies a while back.
is deadbolt still aorund? they were big into turbo rebuilds/ upgrades on the scoobies a while back.
Ok, well here it all is then.
If I had to do it all again, Garrett BB turbo's would not be on my list of choices for turbo chargers.
Why? I have had the turbo at a Garrett authorized repair center and they have verified that there is no damage to this turbo other than the exhaust side wheel. Cost to repair it?
Exactly the same cost it was to buy originally, thats right 1700 for the repair of the exhaust wheel.
This is insane. Not at all within the realm of reason at all.
So, if I were to choose again I would choose ANY other brand other than Garrett due to the cost of repairs being much more reasonable for any other brand.
Garrett, great turbo, unless you have any issue or problem with it, then you may as well just buy another one new. And at the premium that these guys cost over other turbo's this is not at all acceptable.
If I had to do it all again, Garrett BB turbo's would not be on my list of choices for turbo chargers.
Why? I have had the turbo at a Garrett authorized repair center and they have verified that there is no damage to this turbo other than the exhaust side wheel. Cost to repair it?
Exactly the same cost it was to buy originally, thats right 1700 for the repair of the exhaust wheel.
This is insane. Not at all within the realm of reason at all.
So, if I were to choose again I would choose ANY other brand other than Garrett due to the cost of repairs being much more reasonable for any other brand.
Garrett, great turbo, unless you have any issue or problem with it, then you may as well just buy another one new. And at the premium that these guys cost over other turbo's this is not at all acceptable.
nosechunks;1460381 said:
The beatings I have seen Garrett Ball Bearing units take is staggering. (obviously there are rare failures) but a small boost leak will not over speed a ball bearing Garrett cartridge to the point of failure at a low boost setting. You are correct though about the turbo accelerating to make target with a boost leak.
nick88;1460342 said:
pln;1460400 said:
Flateric;1460539 said:
Poodles;1460854 said:
Flateric;1461247 said:
Not to pour salt on the wound, but this is not AT ALL Garrett's fault. That's big time FOD as you can see the fins hugely damaged and mushroomed over. Ball bearing units generally cannot be rebuilt at all, regardless of manufacturer, and a turbine is basically the largest part of the turbo you could damage, as it's a one piece shaft that goes from the turbine all the way through the cartridge through the compressor wheel.
If you would have thrown rocks through a PTE bb turbo you would have run into the same thing. The only turbo company that has a warranty is Turbonetics. If you stuff a rabbit through your compressor and chunk it up, they will say, here you go sir, have your brand new turbo. (as long as it's within 1 year from purchase date).
We just today pulled apart a customer's 4088R and his also had FOD on the turbine wheel. The reason you are being quoted so high is because that's what it costs. You need a new CHRA, not a rebuild, which retails for $1816.49, the turbo brand new (which is the same things with a pair of housings) is $2274.60 so there is a $458.11 difference. Mind you these are MSRP so market price is a bit less but the point is, it's a fantastic turbo and yes it's not cheap.
If you need a new CHRA I'll be happy to source one for you, but I do want everyone to realize this failure is not in any way a reason to not buy a Garrett product. They are some of the most reliable turbochargers on the market, you just simply had bad luck. Have you tracked down where the problem came from?
Dude, you gotta read all my posts, I am not angry at Garrett nor am I blaming them for this failure, nor am I thinking it should be warrenty.
I take full responsibility for the damage and yes I did track down where it came from. My fault.
I am miffed about the repair costs, nothing more.
I take full responsibility for the damage and yes I did track down where it came from. My fault.
I am miffed about the repair costs, nothing more.
Yup, your dead on, it was the mani. Although even there as I have said. I have to accept blame also. I inspected that mani for atleast 2 hours and gave it the thumbs up.
After all my researching and calls and such about this incident I would have to say without the next time I buy a new turbo it will be without any question a Turbonetics.
After sending them my pics and speaking to them I would have had apparently no problems with replacement or at the very least a very reasonable cost of replacement.
This speaks volumes about their customer service and product value!
Yes, even on the BB products.
Just thought I would make that well known.
Turbonetics FTW!
After all my researching and calls and such about this incident I would have to say without the next time I buy a new turbo it will be without any question a Turbonetics.
After sending them my pics and speaking to them I would have had apparently no problems with replacement or at the very least a very reasonable cost of replacement.
This speaks volumes about their customer service and product value!
Yes, even on the BB products.
Just thought I would make that well known.
Turbonetics FTW!
they suck ass. dont ever use them. they dont stand behind there work what so ever.
Zumtizzle;1459981 said:
MDCmotorsports;1460495 said:
Mark Conte;1461274 said:
Did you not ready ANY THING I wrote Mark?
Mark Conte said:
Uh huh. Try telling that to the thousands of diesel truck owners that almost put TurboNetics out of business because they told them all to pound sand.
The 13.5 is the absolute peak and the log shows it was there for less than a 10th of a second or thereabouts.
Look at how sooty the turbine is, it was running so rich that the back end of my car even has a black sooty film around the tailpipe area. I also need to point out the turbo was run for less than 50miles.
Besides, it's all besides the point because I did find the little stainless weld ball and I have now found it's source in my manifold. It's looking like it was more than one, sorta a little row of them off the edge of a ridge where the runners all begin to join up between 5 and 6.
Look at how sooty the turbine is, it was running so rich that the back end of my car even has a black sooty film around the tailpipe area. I also need to point out the turbo was run for less than 50miles.
Besides, it's all besides the point because I did find the little stainless weld ball and I have now found it's source in my manifold. It's looking like it was more than one, sorta a little row of them off the edge of a ridge where the runners all begin to join up between 5 and 6.
