Got my car appraised today..

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Well, I took my car to an appraiser and it was a rather interesting experience, thought I would share what I learned.

My goal here is to have the insurance company value the car higher than book in case of an accident. The dollar amount I am looking for is $7500. Kelly bluebook today is $3500 :(. The guy I took the car to does alot of car related stuff: he owns a repair shop, a car inspection company, and he does accident reconstruction and appears in court as an expert witness. He also collects old cars and does appraisals. I took the sup down to his storage warehouse that has wrecked cars plus his collection and a lift. He went over the car outside and in, put it on the rack, and also drove it. Overall he liked supras alot, he thinks they have good potential and are very popular. He didn't like the fact that my airbag was disabled and the AC was missing. It hurt the value. Alot. I asked how much and he said about $1500. Ack! First estimate he gave on the car was $5,000. He said a year and half ago he would've put it at $7,500. After driving it and putting it up on the rack, he said he would go higher, but I'm not sure exactly how much. I am going to email him everything I have done to the car. He said simply replacing a stock part gains no value. Upgrading a stock part adds value. I won't recover the cost of the labor involved, but I can recoup the value of the part itself. So keeping receipts and taking good notes is important. After I email him the list, he will type up a report, including pictures and snail-mail it to me. Then I can take this to the insurance company. He said if the insurance company doesn't cooperate, there are companies out there that specialize in such cars and they would be able to cover the car. I'll post what the final appraised value is when I get it in the mail.

He did notice the car had been wrecked, but he determined it was a minor fender bender. Not enough to deploy the airbag. He also recommended having my appraisal updated every 12-24 months as I continue to do improvements.

After the appraisal I almost hit a guy that pulled out in front of me.


Oh, here's a pic of the new interior. Seats are used out of another '90. Carpet is brand new:

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Judging by the pics, the car looks in good shape. (for what I can see) I say take it to someone else like an aftermarket car guy so to speak that specializes in custom cars, sports cars etc...I would have told him to leave after the first response. :3d_frown:

Duane
 

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upgradedsupra;1214347 said:
Judging by the pics, the car looks in good shape. (for what I can see) I say take it to someone else like an aftermarket car guy so to speak that specializes in custom cars, sports cars etc...I would have told him to leave after the first response. :3d_frown:

Duane

This car is still very much stock. This is my fourth sup in the past 5 yrs, so I know the market well. Economy sucks. I would be lucky to get someone to pay $6k for this car as it stands today. That is why he suggested getting it re-appraised. First, the economy will improve. Second, I will soon be able to do actual improvements to the car rather than just maintaining it. Getting all the basic stuff in good working order is sucking the $$ right now and not adding real significant value. Plus I didn't realize how important a working airbag and AC is.

A supra's worth is measured by how much someone is willing to pay for it, not by the owner's asking price.

Don't forget Duane, I haven't got his final appraisal value yet. Will post it when I get it.
 
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ZoomZoomZoom;1214417 said:
This car is still very much stock. This is my fourth sup in the past 5 yrs, so I know the market well. Economy sucks. I would be lucky to get someone to pay $6k for this car as it stands today. That is why he suggested getting it re-appraised. First, the economy will improve. Second, I will soon be able to do actual improvements to the car rather than just maintaining it. Getting all the basic stuff in good working order is sucking the $$ right now and not adding real significant value. Plus I didn't realize how important a working airbag and AC is.

A supra's worth is measured by how much someone is willing to pay for it, not by the owner's asking price.

Don't forget Duane, I haven't got his final appraisal value yet. Will post it when I get it.

Keep us updated on that then since the one you got so far is an insult. He deserves a kick in the balls.
 
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Economy sucks. I would be lucky to get someone to pay $6k for this car as it stands today.

This is what popped into my head. Cars are getting really cheap now, especially performance cars. A few months ago LS1 f-bodies were still in the 10k+ range and now they're going for like 7k.... and I haven't seen any good Supras for sale locally but the decent ones are all like $1500.

Wait a bit and get some AC in and see what he says :icon_bigg
 

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Mrs. Abusive, er, I mean, Tracy.....:biglaugh:

After getting that preposterous quote from this guy,
I'm really curious to see what kind of figure he throws at you next.
I've seen your car in person and I truthfully don't think a Supra could look much nicer in terms of body condition/paint, etc.
(Afterall, I did stare at your car in amazement for 5 minutes, drooling out of my mouth and all) :biglaugh:
With your car, I'd be upset to see ANYTHING below $10.5k+.


Jeff
 

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tbcmorris;1214540 said:
i think i may need a reappraisal

You will likely see the value of your car drop. Remember,the economy has an impact on appraisals!


Boost Lee;1214563 said:
Mrs. Abusive, er, I mean, Tracy.....:biglaugh:

After getting that preposterous quote from this guy,
I'm really curious to see what kind of figure he throws at you next.
I've seen your car in person and I truthfully don't think a Supra could look much nicer in terms of body condition/paint, etc.
(Afterall, I did stare at your car in amazement for 5 minutes, drooling out of my mouth and all) :biglaugh:
With your car, I'd be upset to see ANYTHING below $10.5k+.


Jeff

Jeff, I divorced Mr. Abusive, so its just Ms. Abusive now ;)

I would have been stunned to get the car valued at $10.5k. Better yet, send me the handsome bachelor with the $10.5k in his bank account. Really, I think its worth $7.5k and he said he would have appraised it at that a year ago. The economy sucks. If you have a good appraisal on your sup that your insurance company accepts, DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING UNTIL THE ECONOMY IMPROVES!

The paintjob is good, not great, not show quality. White hides everything ;) The appraiser said my car's condition was a good start. He highly recommended coming back and getting the appraisal updated as I work on it. And get the AC/airbags working. There's no reason I can't get the car up to $10k in the future. Just takes $$.
 

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No doubt performance cars of every kind have fallen in value right now. (All car values are down, not just powerful cars.)

Case in point, I've been watching 2003 RS6 values, and 2002-2003 S8 values for years. (I have a 1998 A8, and love it, but would love either the 450hp TTV8 in the RS6, or the 360hp V8 in the S8, and the suspension/brake changes of the S8 that my A8 does not have.)

Anyway, they are getting very "low priced" for very nice examples. (And as more people sell them this low, the price for all of them goes down.)

Recession, Depression or whatever you want to call it, when money is tight, the price of things that are not needed to sustain life, generally goes down. (IE: fast cars, bikes and stuff/toys like that.)

My Supra has never been an investment. ;)

It would be nice to get a policy for an agreed amount, but as you are finding out, there are many hoops to jump through in most cases. (Same goes for motorcycles that are custom.)

Heck, I have well over 25k into my dust collector. I'd be lucky at the moment to get 10k for it, and only if somone who really knew the car well, and wanted the stroker motor, and could not live without the 14" brakes. ;)

PS: My AC works too... LOL
 

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Now that you have an appraisal you have to have the right kind of insurance. I believe its called "agreed value or agreed amount insurance". If you don't have the right coverage your insurance company will pay you the "actual cash value". Who determines the actual cash value? The insurance company. Or in other words.... low ball. Your appraisal will help but most likely you would have to go to arbitration and that can get expensive. Take note that many insurance companies only recognize appraisals done by their own approved appraisers. Remember its you against them. I don't mean to be a kill joy.
 

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Good thread. Keep in mind that maintaining it, in fact, does keep value. To say other wise is wrong. Let a car go to pot and see what it is worth.

Well maintained keeps good value. A specialty value is hard to get. For example, not to slam Mark, I wouldn't pay 20K, for somebody else's personalization.
 

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Nick M;1214786 said:
Good thread. Keep in mind that maintaining it, in fact, does keep value. To say other wise is wrong. Let a car go to pot and see what it is worth.

Well maintained keeps good value. A specialty value is hard to get. For example, not to slam Mark, I wouldn't pay 20K, for somebody else's personalization.

Agreed.
Although, If I were ever in the market for a well maintained, tastefully modified Supra,
I would certainly consider the aftermarket parts value...
But there is a line that would be drawn.

Tracy - Ms. Abusive, it is. But you better be packing a handful this Spring for the next meet when I actually show up in my own Supra. :biglaugh:

Jeff
 

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whowouldfigga;1214689 said:
Now that you have an appraisal you have to have the right kind of insurance. I believe its called "agreed value or agreed amount insurance". If you don't have the right coverage your insurance company will pay you the "actual cash value". Who determines the actual cash value? The insurance company. Or in other words.... low ball. Your appraisal will help but most likely you would have to go to arbitration and that can get expensive. Take note that many insurance companies only recognize appraisals done by their own approved appraisers. Remember its you against them. I don't mean to be a kill joy.

Absolutely! And I should've put this in my original post. I went to my auto insurance company (Grange) first. They stated we would have to do an agreed value based on an appraisal. I asked for the name of the appraiser they wanted me to use, but she wouldn't give me any names, she said just get an appraisal and fill out this form. Looked in the phone book, and found only one appraiser under "automobile appraisers". What are his qualifications/certifications/licenses? Should've asked really. My dog could be an appraiser for all the insurance company knows. Anyways, I was at his storage warehouse for an hour and a half with the car. He was pretty thorough, talked in layman's terms, and didn't give me any BS. The appraisal report is $99, so its not like a huge amount of money.

Boost Lee;1214837 said:
Agreed.
Although, If I were ever in the market for a well maintained, tastefully modified Supra,
I would certainly consider the aftermarket parts value...
But there is a line that would be drawn.

Tracy - Ms. Abusive, it is. But you better be packing a handful this Spring for the next meet when I actually show up in my own Supra. :biglaugh:

Jeff

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PS: never said my car was the fastest. Just the prettiest ;)