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supra1

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I would avoid that like the plague!

it looks nice but there are no strut supports inside the plenum (like there are in virtual works or PPF ones) and under high boost it WILL crack.

not if but when.
Also, it is a major pain repairing cracks in IMs such as that because of all the contaminants that builds up in them from a running engine over a period of time.
and an unclean weld is a bad weld...
Also, the mani would have to be cut in half, supports welded in, and then rewelded back up....making it not worth the effort!
 
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supra1 said:
and under high boost it WILL crack.
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i'd like to see proof that it'll crack under boost. that's speculation, and nothing more. you watched too much fast and the furious.
 
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supra1 said:
I would avoid that like the plague!

it looks nice but there are no strut supports inside the plenum (like there are in virtual works or PPF ones) and under high boost it WILL crack.

not if but when.
Also, it is a major pain repairing cracks in IMs such as that because of all the contaminants that builds up in them from a running engine over a period of time.
and an unclean weld is a bad weld...
Also, the mani would have to be cut in half, supports welded in, and then rewelded back up....making it not worth the effort!
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Do you have one of these, or is all this just unfounded speculation on your part? I only see a few pictures, I can't see anything that would make me come to the conclusions you have so easily.
 
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supra1 said:
under high boost it WILL crack.
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Wow! I guess all the custom made FFIM's (Ron's, Seth's, IJ's, etc) are going to blow at any moment :runaway:


I'm calling :bsflag:
 
jsnowman76

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I have never even heard of that...... ever.

Support brackets on the inside are a very valid point, but I have never seen an intake split in half.
 
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supra1 said:
I would avoid that like the plague!

it looks nice but there are no strut supports inside the plenum (like there are in virtual works or PPF ones) and under high boost it WILL crack.

not if but when.
Also, it is a major pain repairing cracks in IMs such as that because of all the contaminants that builds up in them from a running engine over a period of time.
and an unclean weld is a bad weld...
Also, the mani would have to be cut in half, supports welded in, and then rewelded back up....making it not worth the effort!
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Ok, he overstated it, but there are some valid concerns here.
 
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suprabad said:
Ok, he overstated it, but there are some valid concerns here.
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Sure - there are valid CONCERNS. Certainly not something he should make definitive statements about unless he actually ran one and can support his claims with some sort of data.
 
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wow, i thought i would just tell you guys about it lol. i didnt mean to start an infection of problems. but yea i kind of agree that supports would help, but cracking under pressure or blowin up in half i dont see that happening, i'm sorry. i have seen many cars running 25-30psi of boost and never seen a intake manifold blow up, that would be pretty sweet though. WWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAA PPPPOOOSSHHHH bang lol
 
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you didn't start problems. the ignorant post from supra1 did. i'm still waiting for evidence.

not that i would ever buy one of these, as i love my ron r. manifold, but i'm one who likes to have proof to back up statements. especially ones as absurd as supra1's. ;)
 
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Judging from the shape of the manifold it looks like it might clear the alternator thus retaining it in stock location as well as the a/c.

They certainly have changed the shape from their earlier models which required the alternator to be located to the a/c position.
 
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looks nice... I would want to see some flow #'s before I throw that kind of bread at it though..
 
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If a manifold is not built right, here is what can happen.

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There were two flaws which led to this outcome.

Metal too thin 1/8"
Ground down welds on metal that was too thin.

To rememdy this, I cut out the 1/8" and replaced it with 1/4". I then angled the cuts so I good penetration so I could still grind the welds down.

What happens when manifolds fail is the flexing of the aluminum. Aluminum doesn't like to flex, and will eventually fatigue and crack. Your filler should also be an alloy that works better for flexing. I don't think 6061 is a good alloy for anything that will have a constant pressure change. It is very rigid, but if you think there might be any flexing at all, 5052 should be your choice, along with a filler that compliments the 5052. I could be wrong in my thinking, but I have also been told similar by others.

Also, Tun_x....we are going to build you one for 1/4 of that price anyway. :)

Although for $990, that isn't a bad price, that thing has custom runners and everything, with a VERY VERY clean interior. The craftsmanship looks top notch.
 
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