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americanjebus

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my question is do you get better 1/4 times with ect and od on or with ect and o/d off??

i ask cus on the highway with o/d off the car is in the lower gear and can pull much harder than in o/d and if i were to do a 1/4 mile pass with it off i wanted to know if i would be able to keep that 3rd gear pull

i havent done comparisons on the clock, but if feels like smoother shifting to 5500 rpm's with o/d on.
 

Mark3Supraholic

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I think Overdrive is for highway. Mainly to save the engine/tranny from unneccesary stress from being in too low of a gear while highway cruising. Sae gas too? I didn't really feel a difference back when mine ran in the 1/4.
 
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im gonna move this to general, as it certainly applies to supras.

YAAAYYYYYY!
 

Nick M

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Overdrive on or off wont hurt your speed in the quarter. You wont upshift at WOT unless you hit the programmed shift point. And that is all ECT does, is change the shift point a little higher.
 

americanjebus

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yea i'm hitting 5600rpm's per shift so i have to run it to 100+ to hit overdrive, wich is like 17 seconds for my car. <- top of head geuss.
 

Furball

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At WOT the Supra hits OD at 115mph. So if your mph in the quarter is below that, don't worry about the OD.
 

suprabad

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Have you seen the the auto trans build-up thread on (sorry) S.F ?

I made the mods described in the thread (kickdown cable and shimmed acumulators) and OH MAN WHAT A DIFFERENCE! :biglaugh: :biglaugh: It shifts hard now with no slip and my car is way faster with the modified a340e. I'd definitly look into that If I were you.
 

tubbie

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For all you lazy folks........ :biglaugh:

These are my own little tricks to make a a340 last. If you are rebuilding it, or having it rebuilt, install kevlar clutches, they tend to do best. Also, you must have a larger cooler on your car! Heat kills 90% of these transmissions. The other trick is to lock the detent(kick down cable) in full open, and to shim two of the accumulators, which is the only true way of decreasing shift time. this well affect the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts. Here's a brief walk through of that process...

Im in the process of making a full website with more intensive photos and walkthrough, stay tuned
After having one servere issue arise(we are working to correct it) I must strongly advise the following points.
1: It is best to do this mod with the transmission out of the car, the time saved by just pulling it will payoff on assembly
2: Get a new gasket, they are VERY sensitive to dust and such and can distort and bleed pressure
3: DO NOT OVER TOURQUE THE BOLTS. This is CRUICIAL you can warp the valve body or the transmission case when you do this. The spec is around INCH LBS, No airtools allowed for the valve body!
4: Do not mix your bolts up, they go in certain places.

The issue that has arrisen is a car shifting into reverse when it should go into overdrive, and it appears to be a pressure bleedoff issue, once we have that exact cause located, I will post it, and ways to avoid it.

Remove transmission(my preference)


Remove the transmission pan bolts, I marked most of them, you can figure it out...

Remove the filter with the three marked bolts. Also there are two metal tubes, I already had them out so I drew them in, gently pry back and forth and they will come out

The fun part, my recommendation is do not take the bolts out of the valve body, they are specific on their location.
Completely loosen the brown arrows, loose till there is slack on the bracket for the purple arrow, and remove electrical connectors marked by blue. Before you can remove the valve body, you must disconnect the kick down cable, see next picture to see the bottom side of it


This is what everything looks like once you get the valve body off, The two "things" marked are accumulators, those two are the only ones we are concerned with at this time

A close up of the accumulators

This is the first accumulator stretched out, the trick to getting them out is to push them all the way down and let them pop up... only way I can get them out.(this is the b-2 accumulator 1-2)

This is the bottom side of the accumulator(the one without the solid rod, that would be put in first going back in) This is where you want to place your shims, you want the shims to be about 1/3 of the spring travel, unless you don't care about you neck and you're tires breaking loose every shift.

Make 100% sure that you do not block this port, if you do, you're screwed.

This is the c-2 accumulator 2-3 see above for details

inside c-2 place shims as above

Again, don't block this port

This is just a reference picture, of how far the travel is, but you'll be figuring that out on you're own.
again reference, this is the outside of the tranny, to from the right, b-2,c-2, then the kick down cable.

Final reference, on reassembly, make sure this is how the shift lever looks, otherwise it won't work.. =)

Final note, the easiest way of locking the kick down full open is to cut the cable(with valve body and transmission fully together) and then lock it with a cable lock or other vising device, unless you want to build a wedge to put in when the valve body is out, all a matter of preference.

Not too descriptive, but I hope this at least will give you all an idea of where to start with when upgrading a a340. Also, I don't see much need of a upgraded valve body, from what Ive researched, they are rarely more then what you can do you're self here, or slightly enlarged passages, not worth the money to me.
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superdupersupramk3

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yeah aways use o/d on the freeway..somehow my o/d went out and everytime i drove on the freeway the motor was just getting more and more stressed, then one day i raced and eclipse and once i slowed down on my exit ramp either the 5th or 6th rod snapped! i mean it was bound to go due to pervious owners ill maintenace but not having that 4th gear sped the problem up..from experience i recommend always having o/d on..i never experienced the o/d as a poor mans v-tec..the shifting always just felt smoother, highway or domestic
 

Nick M

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Don't lock the cable down. That gives a proportional pressure increase with throttle. You don't need shift shock going to the grocery store.