For the police on the site...or maybe law student...

IwantMKIII

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Cliff notes, i got the fuck beat out of me for no reason at a bar. There are pics on this thread on page 2 i think. I've talked to others about this, this isn't the first time it happened for no reason (according to others i don't know). Just tonight my good friend told me HIS friend was in the same situation this weekend, got beat up for no reason but he was sober and can recall facts easily, he went to the cops and they strongly discouraged him from reporting it so he didn't just like me. i feel like ther is a cover up going on or something. I am lost on what to do. This should not happen. Its a violation of rights IMO.


my original post is here, pics are on page 2 i think: http://wvmotorsports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1395


This obviously isn't an isolated problem at this point.....since the police won't do much...what should i do???

Edit: since the link won't work.....

And just to clear things up....again, this is not the first time this has happened here. The more i tell people about it the more i hear stories of people basically getting the crap kicked out of them. Like i said, my friend's friend just last night was sober, just got off work, and had this situation happen to him. He went to the police and they did nothing. On another local site a friends girl had this happen, she went to the police and again, they told her not to report anything.

Seriously.....i did nothing. I was standing at the bar just hangin out, i was talkin to the owner a bit and talkin with a bartender i knew in the "VIP" section of chasers (first mistake) and next thing i know guy grabs me by my arm throws me to the floor and starts draggin me yelling at me to get out. I say fine, i try to get up and out he consistantly pushes me down and a couple guys forcefully drag me out...really face first i mean it was ridiculous...ive never seen or experienced anythig like this before. I lost a contact, my eye is fucked up, hopefully nothign is wrong with it cause im having trouble focusing.

i don't bruise easily that's for sure...so damage is minimal...just my eye and i just discovered marks from the concrete that broke my fall inbetween my eyes....

oh and i just remembered, they choked me to the point i couldn't breath/talk a good 20 seconds or so.....that was fun

Aftermath:


R.I.P. favorite jeans. If you look at the bottom of the left pant leg you can see where they were stepping on me, preventing me from getting up, yet at the same time yelling at me to get up.

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They fucked up my eye good too...hopefully no perm damage. You can also see the concrete marks right in the middle of my forehead:

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Entropy

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So, they just dragged you out of the bar and proceeded to beat the living shit out of you? What were you doing before this happened? That sucks.....
 

MKivSupra_Rob

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If it was for no reason and you can prove you weren't being a drunk idiot then go crazy, press charges, this is america, you can sue for anything.

Who is "they" ? People in the bar or the bouncers?
 

suprahero

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You can't see any pictures without registering and I'm pretty sure I'm not a member of that site.

I'd have to get even somehow if I wasn't at blame. I"m not telling you too, I'm just saying I would.
 

GotBoost?

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As always, there are two sides to a story. I don't know what your side is, since you only said you got beat up for no reason at all. So go see a lawyer, he'll ask you some questions, might go dig around some, and decide if you have a case or not.
 

HommerSimpson

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IwantMKIII;941773 said:
Cliff notes, i got the fuck beat out of me for no reason at a bar. There are pics on this thread on page 2 i think. I've talked to others about this, this isn't the first time it happened for no reason (according to others i don't know). Just tonight my good friend told me HIS friend was in the same situation this weekend, got beat up for no reason but he was sober and can recall facts easily, he went to the cops and they strongly discouraged him from reporting it so he didn't just like me. i feel like ther is a cover up going on or something. I am lost on what to do. This should not happen. Its a violation of rights IMO.


my original post is here, pics are on page 2 i think: http://wvmotorsports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1395


This obviously isn't an isolated problem at this point.....since the police won't do much...what should i do???

Well lets see.. If it was me that got the shit beat out of.. and i went to cops and they did nothing.. Well lets see... moth balls in all their gas tanks...few months after they replace there engines.. id leave them with side walls cut....all 4tires... then id start over with the moth balls.. O yea and if they drink at this bar.. humm few simple acedents while they leaving parking lot might get them a few dui's... O yea then on top of that.. write the news papers and tell them your story... revenge is always better then justice...imho... or is that not true justice
 

Dunckel

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GotBoost?;941907 said:
As always, there are two sides to a story.

Ding Ding Ding! People don't get thrown out of bars for nothing. Well, actually, they do. It is private property. If the bartender doesn't like your hair, that is a good enough, and lawful reason to have you removed from the premises.
But that wouldn't be justification enough to assault you.

Bartenders do have the right to physically remove you if you are asked to leave, and you show the slightest passive movement. If you don't get up and leave immediately, they will force you out. Sometimes when we are forced to move, our feet don't know what to do, and we stumble, especially if we are inebriated. Sometimes causing bumps, bruises, and the occasional bleeding.

With that said, I am a police officer, and do come across this situation. 97% of the time, it is the drunk that is causing trouble and doesn't want to leave, so he is forced out. The other 3% of the time, it is a person that thinks they are asked to leave for no good reason, when in fact, any reason is a lawful reason.

We hear this a lot in the field. "I didn't do anything."

If you think you were wronged, get an attorney. Get the name of the officer(s) that told you not to do anything about it. File a complaint with their supervisor(s).
 

Dunckel

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HommerSimpson;941915 said:
Well lets see.. If it was me that got the shit beat out of.. and i went to cops and they did nothing.. Well lets see... moth balls in all their gas tanks...few months after they replace there engines.. id leave them with side walls cut....all 4tires... then id start over with the moth balls.. O yea and if they drink at this bar.. humm few simple acedents while they leaving parking lot might get them a few dui's... O yea then on top of that.. write the news papers and tell them your story... revenge is always better then justice...imho... or is that not true justice

Yeah, sure.
 

Loki

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HommerSimpson;941915 said:
Well lets see.. If it was me that got the shit beat out of.. and i went to cops and they did nothing.. Well lets see... moth balls in all their gas tanks...few months after they replace there engines.. id leave them with side walls cut....all 4tires... then id start over with the moth balls.. O yea and if they drink at this bar.. humm few simple acedents while they leaving parking lot might get them a few dui's... O yea then on top of that.. write the news papers and tell them your story... revenge is always better then justice...imho... or is that not true justice


You're a moron.
 
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HommerSimpson;941915 said:
Well lets see.. If it was me that got the shit beat out of.. and i went to cops and they did nothing.. Well lets see... moth balls in all their gas tanks...few months after they replace there engines.. id leave them with side walls cut....all 4tires... then id start over with the moth balls.. O yea and if they drink at this bar.. humm few simple acedents while they leaving parking lot might get them a few dui's... O yea then on top of that.. write the news papers and tell them your story... revenge is always better then justice...imho... or is that not true justice

Yeah, that's REALLY mature. :3d_frown:
If this guy didn't do anything then I suggest talking to an attorney. People these days just get pushy for fun it seems. I have seen it many times and it should be dealt with.

Good thing is that you're ok. We had an incident that was similar here and the guy was paralyzed from neck down.

Duane
 

IwantMKIII

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Dunckel;941929 said:
Ding Ding Ding! People don't get thrown out of bars for nothing. Well, actually, they do. It is private property. If the bartender doesn't like your hair, that is a good enough, and lawful reason to have you removed from the premises.
But that wouldn't be justification enough to assault you.

Bartenders do have the right to physically remove you if you are asked to leave, and you show the slightest passive movement. If you don't get up and leave immediately, they will force you out. Sometimes when we are forced to move, our feet don't know what to do, and we stumble, especially if we are inebriated. Sometimes causing bumps, bruises, and the occasional bleeding.

With that said, I am a police officer, and do come across this situation. 97% of the time, it is the drunk that is causing trouble and doesn't want to leave, so he is forced out. The other 3% of the time, it is a person that thinks they are asked to leave for no good reason, when in fact, any reason is a lawful reason.

We hear this a lot in the field. "I didn't do anything."

If you think you were wronged, get an attorney. Get the name of the officer(s) that told you not to do anything about it. File a complaint with their supervisor(s).


yes, there are two sides. But i can honestly say i was just sitting at the bar. In fact 10 minutes prior the head bouncer/manager was buying me shots :nono: which makes it even more confusing to me. I've been tossed out of bars before but not forcefully, when asked to leave I LEFT. This was a grab throw step on, then ask to leave situation. :3d_frown: Again, this is not the first time this has happened. The more i talk to people about it, the more stories i hear of it happening before. There are two stories already coming out where the people went to the police station the next day and they were strongly discouraged to report anything so they didn't.

It saddens me to know when i actually ask an officer for help and what to do, they laugh at the situation (yes this happened, i talked with a cop that night it happened). It saddens me more when i hear other stories like this happen (supposedly even to a girl) and when the victims actually try to do something to help prevent it from happening again, the police basically talk them out of filing any complaints.
 

IwantMKIII

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MkIIIentropy;941781 said:
So, they just dragged you out of the bar and proceeded to beat the living shit out of you? What were you doing before this happened? That sucks.....

It was a grab, throw to the ground, step on, drag, choke and toss face first onto conrete situation. Sitting at the bar before this.

MKivSupra_Rob;941782 said:
If it was for no reason and you can prove you weren't being a drunk idiot then go crazy, press charges, this is america, you can sue for anything.

Who is "they" ? People in the bar or the bouncers?

they are the bouncers

buckshotglass;941816 said:
What bar were you at?

chasers, kind of a shitty 18+ bar (were in a college town, WVU). I don't like going to 18+ bars and this is all the more reason, but not all my friends are 21 so we have to go to places like this every once in a while to hang out with them.

suprahero;941828 said:
You can't see any pictures without registering and I'm pretty sure I'm not a member of that site.

I'd have to get even somehow if I wasn't at blame. I"m not telling you too, I'm just saying I would.

fixed, quoted some of the material from that thread

HommerSimpson;941915 said:
Well lets see.. If it was me that got the shit beat out of.. and i went to cops and they did nothing.. Well lets see... moth balls in all their gas tanks...few months after they replace there engines.. id leave them with side walls cut....all 4tires... then id start over with the moth balls.. O yea and if they drink at this bar.. humm few simple acedents while they leaving parking lot might get them a few dui's... O yea then on top of that.. write the news papers and tell them your story... revenge is always better then justice...imho... or is that not true justice


sorry man, this just isn't a good idea, though trust me id love to do it to return the favor.