Finally!! My air filter has arrived!

redd88soup

Mark III Lover
Jan 15, 2007
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My air filter and MAF adapter is here!:love: Woh-Hooooooo!!!! I installed it today, and man does it sound sexy:naughty: !!! The car has a deeper tone to it now:biglaugh: . It took about thirty mins. to install. Im so freakin' happy, its a power adder filter, not no k&n, but it works! Haha, the down part is i don't think it adds any power at all. I feels as if it runs the same. Idk, but just here to share the Graet news with you guys! I love this Place!!:love:
 

OfnaRcR4

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Oct 2, 2006
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Ya, basically they just add a kick ass sound to a car without exhaust. Not really a power adder unless you have full cold air, and even then its minimal. Still, i will have a cone intake on every car just for the sound.

Just put some heat shield around it to shield it from some engine heat.
 

CRE

7M-GE + MAFT Pro + T = :D
Oct 24, 2005
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You have a couple options, some of which are discussed here: http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34129&highlight=cold+air

Having an open filter in the engine bay is not going to give you more power... fact is, it's more likely to cost you some. You want cold (and thus denser) air going into the engine.

There are two options to accommodate this:
1) build a box which is sealed off from the engine bay and allows air to be pulled from the hole where the stock box got it's air. See jimi87-t's setup here.

Like this:

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2) put together some piping to move the air filter forward under the passenger headlight.

My setup:



These setups won't be identical to yours, but they should give an idea how to approach the intake.

What type of filter did you get? They're not all created the same.



FYI - Our cars do not have a MAF. The N/A's have a VAF, it measures volume, not mass. AFM is the most common title around here as it simply refers to an Air Flow Meter. You can convert over to a MAF system, but it is somewhat costly.
 

redd88soup

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Jan 15, 2007
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Cre, two dumb questions 1) what do i need and how do i make an heatshield, and 2) How would i replace my AFM(?) and what kind of difference does it make? I appreciate the info Cre!:icon_bigg
 

CRE

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There are a couple ways to approach a heat shield. You can build one out of almost any material, but keep in mind that heat shields are more prone to heat saturation than moving the filter location completely. The easy solution to that is build a double walled box with some light insulation between the layers.

That said, Aluminum or Galvanized Steel sheet is very easy to find, relatively inexpensive and both are very easy to work with.

You don't need to have a lid on it like the one I posted a pic of. You can make it tall enough so that the hood closes close to it and use foam or rubber weather strip to create a seal between the hood and the box.

Use cardboard to prototype it all out before you start cutting and bending the sheet metal. It's easier to work with and dirt cheap!



As for the MAFT Pro setup. I'm far from done. As soon as I have the cash I'm going to pickup a wideband and start working on tuning it. Everything else I can say about it has already been said in my writeup. To put it simply the difference in responsiveness is huge. It definitely feels like I've gained some power as well, however without dyno results, I'm not going to flat out say that I've gained any.

The MAFT Pro install puts me MUCH closer to finally dropping in a turbo (yes, that's my end goal). I still need to setup timing control and get the turbo sitting in my closet rebuilt or replaced... along with picking up a manifold and getting an oil return put in the oil pan.

If you want more info read the writeup I posted. ;) If you have any questions after that, let me know!
 

redd88soup

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Jan 15, 2007
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Thanks a lot Cre! I appreciate the help and info man! If i have any questions i'll be sure to post. Thanks again! Oh yeah, MKIII 4 LIFE!
 

saxman47

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CRE said:
There are two options to accommodate this:
1) build a box which is sealed off from the engine bay and allows air to be pulled from the hole where the stock box got it's air. See jimi87-t's setup here.

Like this:

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wow that's a clean install :love:
 

CRE

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Oct 24, 2005
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It is definitely a nice setup, but not for me. I'd rather have some better accessibility. At least drop in some wing nuts so you could refill the washer tank. But yes, I love his engine bay!
 

redd88soup

Mark III Lover
Jan 15, 2007
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Lexington,NC
I agree with everyone. Cre's and Jimi's setup are really clean. My goal is to at least come up to par with at least one of these guys. Let me ask another question; is it possible to have rod knock as soon as you dropped a new/used motor in? Reason being, i had rod knock before, and i know what it sounds like. and recently i got a new/used motor in, and like a couple weeks later, something started to tick. It does not sound anything close to rodknock. So idk. could it possibly be that i need to adjust my valves?
 

CRE

7M-GE + MAFT Pro + T = :D
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The noise could be from shims where the clearances are too far out of spec, or from the injectors. My injectors make enough noise it scared the hell out me when i first got my car. An automotive stethoscope will help you find where it's coming from very quickly.

If it's a higher pitched ticking it's *usually* going to be one of the following: ISC (Idle Speed Control), Cams and shims, injectors, or a VSV or Relay which is getting a bad, intermittent signal.
 

SupraN/Asty

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If it is when you start the car it could be the cold start injector, if you bought a motor off line or from an unknown background it might have spun a rod bearing. it happened to me, the other possiblilty is spark knock.
 

redd88soup

Mark III Lover
Jan 15, 2007
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Lexington,NC
Appreciate the info guys. I'll check it out and see what i come up with. Another thing, Supra N/Asty are you from Greensboro, NC? Just wonderinng since i live like 30 mins, from there.
 

jimi87-t

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Oct 12, 2005
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JJ: Thanks for the kind words ;)

CRE: Thanks.

Thanks guys, FYI, the lid is held on with short allen head bolts, about 2 min to take off and refill the tank ;) No biggie for me as I don't drive it enough to need to use the washer fluid that much. But yeah some thumb screws might be nice :icon_bigg

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CRE

7M-GE + MAFT Pro + T = :D
Oct 24, 2005
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Thumb screws aren't a bad idea. I myself would probably go for a hinged setup with one or two clip retainers (like on a trunk/chest, but smaller).

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I love your setup jimi!
 

jimi87-t

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Oct 12, 2005
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Thanks man, yeah that would defiantly speed up the proses;)

BTW, I see you're in Denver, I'll be moving to Colorado springs at the end of April. Is there a supra crowd out there?

EDIT: and here is a link to some more info on that air box, diagrams and what not: Air box info