FFIM possibility poll
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Its aluminium, make a manifold first then see whats involved before ya make to many promises Im not trying to sound rude its just alot of work involved
wait till after my 1st prototype, im not too sure the way it'll look will attract people.Kyle87T said:Wanna make me one? PM me.. im serious
starscream5000 said:Poop
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I would be interested in your FFIM with detailed pictures of the work.
Good luck with everything and don't be shocked if your hard work isn't quite worth $300 for a manifold.
(Just a pre-warning).-Jeff
If you're going to make short runners, I suggest getting your hands on one of Ron's alternator brackets and having it duplicated. It will be a must .
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starscream5000 said:If you're going to make short runners, I suggest getting your hands on one of Ron's alternator brackets and having it duplicated. It will be a must
Or put the work into creating your own...
thats exactly what im doing :icon_bigg no need to tread on others feet and steal there hard earned work. (happens way too much)MassSupra89 said:
As frightening a thought as this sounds, I looked into converting a spare stock turbo mani into a FFIM and I found that not only was aluminum hella expensive to weld, but many alloys can't be welded, only cast or machined. With that in mind many places use a composite process by which an epoxy or other strong adhesive is used to bond the aluminum together where cost is important and shear strength isn't as large an issue. Radiator repair shops use an adhesive compound to seal radiators that religiously hold 16psi and i had a shop seal an AC condenser and the lowest pressure an AC system sees is roughly psi= ambient temp in degrees farenheight. This brought me to GLUING a FFIM together. I never had the sheer balls but i considered it seriously for a time. I just couldn't put the work into testing. The thought of a FFIM made of aluminum tube and JB Weld made me smile though :icon_bigg
PS- I had thought of steel but I thought the aluminum lower mani would expand at too different a rate than the steel upper mani and under boost I'd blow the manifold gasket....it won't take the torque an alum head/iron block will
PS- I had thought of steel but I thought the aluminum lower mani would expand at too different a rate than the steel upper mani and under boost I'd blow the manifold gasket....it won't take the torque an alum head/iron block will
The entire manifold upper and lower will be replaced with my steel unit. I thought if this same concept and then also thought of the differences in flow between a mandrel bent pipe and the cast aluminum lower.johnny_boy83 said:
you have to remember the lower runners taper to an oval so mandrel bends would have little effect since the lower runners are quite free flowing just a bit of polishing needed
oh wow this is intresting why the hell whould u use steel for ffi that just plain dumb to much work
alloy alot easyer to work with cetp you need mighty welder to do thick stuff
stick to aulim is just far better and way easyer to work with
ps pic's or msn paint skills come in handy or even cad drawing
alloy alot easyer to work with cetp you need mighty welder to do thick stuff
stick to aulim is just far better and way easyer to work with
ps pic's or msn paint skills come in handy or even cad drawing
Well I have been building them for quite awhile now. You will be amazed at the work. I am working on some methods of stream lining the process for better mass producing to cut costs but I think $525 shipped in US for a Long Runner Custom w/ Alternator Drop down bracket is quite reasonable. But anyways good luck, I think you will find making the ports and working the steel painstakingly long work. But I may be suprised. Let me know if you need any help.
Thanks,
Seth
Thanks,
Seth
aluminum long FFIM. This way you can keep all the goodies. DO NOT USE STEEL!!!! Steel will rust.
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