Excess metal removal

[SySt]

I was thinking of what weight I could cut out off my Supra without reducing structural integrity much if at all. I figure I can remove substantial weight by just cutting it out. I would like some other opinions on removing the radiator support framed by the red line in the picture attached. My radiator no longer requires the support, in fact I beleive my radiator hangs down slightly lower than it as well. I beleive the structural purpose of the support is very minimal.

 

[ForcedTorque]

I beleive the structural purpose of the support is very minimal.

I think you are carrying the weight reduction a little too far. Do you think the risk of being wrong is worth a 10-15 pound reduction. It's not a rotating part, so I'd say it would be of extremely little benefit.

 

[jdub]

And, it's structural to the forward frame. I agree, it's carrying weight reduction way too far.

 

[Supracentral]

Work on unsprung weight, it makes much more of a difference. Lighter wheels, etc.

As mentioned, the piece you've highlighted is structural. You don't want to cut that.

 

[Wiisass]

You could cut it out and replace it with a lighter rad support. That would be your best bet, I've been thinking about doing this myself. A tubular fabbed piece could end up being lighter and stronger than the stamped piece. But then I don't know how heavy that piece is. Surprisingly the mk3 chassis itself isn't that heavy, only about 550lbs.

 

[ForcedTorque]

Ya know, Door skins are only cosmetic. You don't need those!

 

[Clip]

better off relocating the battery, but i think you've already done that

 

[kabanimk3supra]

hell, why don't just take out your engine?

that's a good 400 pounds.

j/k, Imagine getting in an accident. you're front end would get mangled and twisted.

I wouldn't do it.

 

[midwestwerks2jz]

i think 99% of teh emtal there toyota put their for a reason

 

[Clip]

the other 1% they left out (stock head gasket = composite )

 

[SySt]

Honesty destipe my recent behavior. I feel the structural argument is all but non extistant. Now beleive that I have made no such modification withoutthe strict rulings based on keeping eveyrmember of the said structural peice within reason given the progranda soon to follow. If more information is needed I will gladly give a point of fact as many are few ready to do.

My reply may seem vague. Perhaps you have caught me in a vaque no more questions. Sorry but my own answers me be very different in any given time zone. I am sorry forr dumping own you claiming perhaps I know more. I would never do that vlad.

I made this post looking for opnions. Opinions based off of experience and one's ture ability to claim otherwise. If you really do not like me and choose to challenge my reasoning. Feel Free to do so...

If anyone feels poorly about this product know this. I would not ask for anything beyond some solid proof unless IJ can interject.

 

[IJ.]

Don't think there's much of a savings there at all.

Also don't think it's that much of a structural member either being so far forward and low so it could probably be safely replaced with a lighter box section.

 

[SySt]

No offense to anybody. This is a bit of an I told you so. IJ is one of few ppl/ I was looking for a response from. It is not much weight, however everything is something...

 

[IJ.]

Yes it all adds up but I think you're so far ahead just with the short light V8 it wouldn't be worth the hassle (just my opinion though)

As for it helping in a crash that HAD to be a joke right.....

 

[SySt]

Adding in a crash? No, I was expecting my engine to take the majority of the load, original. 7M beside the point. You can tell me whatever story you need to sleep easy IJ. Fact of the matter is I want a solid running Supra. Whatever it takes.

IJ, I never ment to imply the structure would aid me in a collision. I strongly beleive the added support is MINIMAL. However as the aspiring engineer I may be considered, I am open to opnions on the matter such as your own.

I think anyone with some brains would have figured out that I am not concerned with how I could be perceived with the accruracies place. I am not a free guru nor should anyone place me on a pedestale. However I do have some knowledge to share with the community is willing to hear it.

IJ, I was primarily looking for your response on this method. I do beleive there is a very minimal value(both safety and otherwise) to be lost by removing said material. My project is still growing strongly...I am trying to find resources I have not always been able to rely on. My Bike does need a garage for the next year and then some...

 

[IJ.]

hell, why don't just take out your engine?

that's a good 400 pounds.

j/k, Imagine getting in an accident. you're front end would get mangled and twisted.

I wouldn't do it.

i think 99% of teh emtal there toyota put their for a reason

My line about the crash thing was in response to the above posts Luke.

It might be an idea if you put the bottle away and got some sleep you're going to feel foolish when reading all the below when you sober up.

Honesty destipe my recent behavior. I feel the structural argument is all but non extistant. Now beleive that I have made no such modification withoutthe strict rulings based on keeping eveyrmember of the said structural peice within reason given the progranda soon to follow. If more information is needed I will gladly give a point of fact as many are few ready to do.

My reply may seem vague. Perhaps you have caught me in a vaque no more questions. Sorry but my own answers me be very different in any given time zone. I am sorry forr dumping own you claiming perhaps I know more. I would never do that vlad.

I made this post looking for opnions. Opinions based off of experience and one's ture ability to claim otherwise. If you really do not like me and choose to challenge my reasoning. Feel Free to do so...

If anyone feels poorly about this product know this. I would not ask for anything beyond some solid proof unless IJ can interject.

Adding in a crash? No, I was expecting my engine to take the majority of the load, original. 7M beside the point. You can tell me whatever story you need to sleep easy IJ. Fact of the matter is I want a solid running Supra. Whatever it takes.

IJ, I never ment to imply the structure would aid me in a collision. I strongly beleive the added support is MINIMAL. However as the aspiring engineer I may be considered, I am open to opnions on the matter such as your own.

I think anyone with some brains would have figured out that I am not concerned with how I could be perceived with the accruracies place. I am not a free guru nor should anyone place me on a pedestale. However I do have some knowledge to share with the community is willing to hear it.

IJ, I was primarily looking for your response on this method. I do beleive there is a very minimal value(both safety and otherwise) to be lost by removing said material. My project is still growing strongly...I am trying to find resources I have not always been able to rely on. My Bike does need a garage for the next year and then some...

 

[gaboonviper85]

god damn shut up already! jesus go ahead and remove that damn thing...that whopping 6pounds of metal will give you an extra 400hp..

you are hijacking and post whoring in your own friggin thread....not one person called you stupid or implied such....chill out dude....take a Prozac

However as the aspiring engineer I may be considered, I am open to opnions on the matter such as your own.

put your penise down and return to the real world please.

 

[SySt]

god damn shut up already! jesus go ahead and remove that damn thing...that whopping 6pounds of metal will give you an extra 400hp..

you are hijacking and post whoring in your own friggin thread....not one person called you stupid or implied such....chill out dude....take a Prozac



put your penise down and return to the real world please.

Hah, I was all set until I saw this post. You do realize that a "prozac" is considered a stimulant in most medical practices do you not? Unfortunately, prozac is something I have experience with, not something I would suggest to someone who may have had anything alchohol-wise in the past 12 hours, especially to one I beleive to be intoxicated, but you would know the benefits nor the possible tragedys that could ensue. Rather, based on the input given I will likely remove the peice aforementioned and take whatever consequences that follow. But I will weigh the peice if not more than to prove it past 6 pounds.

 

[Clip]

judging by the replies in this thread, i don't think it'd be wise to bother with the piece altogether. replace it either with tubular or box steel f you really want to remove it. look for weight savings somewhere else, like replacing the windshield/hatch glass (not with plexi). there just isn't that much excess on the supra that can't be replaced without extensive time and cost involved, and it would be easier to beef up the other components of the car to easily handle the given load already.

 

[Suprapowaz!(2)]

I think if you take that piece off your LS6 will twist you front end within time. Maybe alot sooner than you think. Like other have said, just replace it with something lighter.