Don't waste your money just to end up with a slow car. If you are willing to spend that much on an NA motor, then you might as well just spend that money on a turbo motor and end up with a badass motor. It just doesn't make sense to build up a GE.
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SuperNova;1226756 said:
To build a turbo motor isn't any cheaper than building an na motor,as I'll be damned if I buy a used motor to boost and don't go through it first.At that point I would be as far into it money wise as the na motor,not including the turbo itself,ecu,other electronics,harness,manifolds,exhaust,IC,and any other parts I can't remember right off the top of my head,especially if I don't want used stock parts.That,and most of the parts going into the na motor can be carried over IF I ever decide to go na-t,instead of boosting a stock worn na engine.The bpu's for the na have cost me next to nothing,the only thing that will go in the na that couldn't carry over (internal parts)would be the pistons.Not building the motor as an na to try to get a high hp na,just want a solid base in case I ever decide to go further with it (ie boost.)The car wasn't slow to begin with anyways,no it's not turbo power,but it's still fun as hell to drive,and it's a fucking supra.Enough said.
toy fanatic78;1226806 said:
no offence but, NO...
i've built a N/A cars and i know from experience, there is no replacement for displacement, (boost is extra displacement)
once an engine has reached %100 volumetric efficiency you cannot do much to surpass this... unless you add more displacement, sure you can make it more efficient by balancing the engine, and opening up the ports, and maybe make it burn the fuel at its optium spark timing, but fact is, its still 3000cc...
and with your budget/mindset i don't see you even getting near %90 volumetric efficiency...
id like to see you boost into a long duration cam with high compression, you'll detonate before you see any good power.
its like building a boat then deciding half way down the track you want to drive it on land.... sure it can be done but the results are going to be shit.
congrats to you if you think you will be fine slapping a turbo on the GE, dont worry about the ecu, coil packs? CPS, she'll be right... its people like you who blow up 7m's then say " WHAT A SHIT MOTOR "
my advice to anyone with a 7m-GE who wants more power, buy your self a 7mgte halfcut and be done with it... i mean ffs they're not expensive!!!!!!!!!!!
toy fanatic78;1226806 said:
paradox616;1258344 said:
First of all you don't know SHIT about me,my budget,or my mindset so fuck off.
Secondly,If I want a 7mgte,I will go buy a car that was already turbo from the factory instead of hassling with boosting mine.I'm smart enough to know not to just slap a turbo on my ge and hope it lasts.And if I did some dumb shit like that I could give a fuck less if the motor blew up in a mile.
The parts I was talking about being able to be carried over from the na would be the bottom end of the motor w/the exception of the pistons/rings (rods ,bearings ,crank,balancer)Or what I was referring to as a solid base.Not any sense to me to buy a halfcut as I wouldn't want to use any of the stock parts with the exception of the head and some of the electronics,if I'm gonna do something I'm not gonna do it half assed
Like I said."no,it's not turbo power,but it's still fun as hell to drive,and it's a fuckin' Supra"
I'm not looking for any kind of horsepower numbers,I really could not give a shit less if my car is only 150 horsepower.And if I wanted to listen to ASSHOLES dog out all the supras that aren't turbo I would be on SF,not here.
And with that note,I am done with this thread.
A good normal "limit" to N/A power is 100HP/liter... Keep in mind that modern engine do this because of their ability to rev and other modern helpers (V-tec, direct injection, ect).
Doing it on an older engine is EXTREMELY difficult, and I truely doubt hitting 300HP on a 7M-GE would be possible on pump gas or without spinning it high enough that it would have issues.
Also, nitrous is another form of forced induction, nothing more...
Doing it on an older engine is EXTREMELY difficult, and I truely doubt hitting 300HP on a 7M-GE would be possible on pump gas or without spinning it high enough that it would have issues.
Also, nitrous is another form of forced induction, nothing more...
Canuckrz;1258406 said:Wow all this over the 7mge?
These sort of discussions usually dont happen unless someone insults one religion, mother, or choice of motor oil..
Why not build up your turbo motor and DD the N/A in the time being. See if you dont get bitten by the turbo bug, or even if you dont get the horsepower itch scratched by the turbo car. The most detrimental thing that happened to my Supra rebuild was buying a goat. It satisfied my horsepower/go-fast needs and thus caused me to loose sight of my supras project.
you can build a N/A, play with it for a while... then once it gets old slap a turbo on it, blow it up, and then go 7mgte!
AJ'S 88NA;1258644 said:Should have posted in the NA section, you would have gotten a little more support, even then you still get the "go turbo" responces. I understand what you are saying, most turbo guys won't. Go for it
Not looking for support.Just think it's asinine to swap a motor out (ge-gte) without building it first.I,in no way,shape,or form,ever would expect any large amount of power out of an na 7M.Don't see "building" an na as a waste of money either though,would be doing it for the hope of a moderately powered car that would last a couple hundred thousand miles.200k miles is well worth a few grand spent on a motor.Not every one wants/needs 300+ HP to be happy with their car.I'm building mine to be a reliable touring car,not a racecar. IMO the Supras are some of the best vehicles ever built NA or turbo and I respect them for what they are,fast or not.
See my avatar? I'm a 7M nutswinger. I love the engine and my Supra will never have anything but a 7M.
Even I cant stand N/A 7Ms
Even I cant stand N/A 7Ms
