engine locked up.

[supraman508]

Today i turned the key to start the engine and i herd the starter grind.the starter was turning but the engine was'nt turning over.I can turn the engine by turning the crank shaft with a socket wrench,but could'nt even do that.2 weeks ago i put in some restore in to the oil and a teaspoon into each sparkplug hole.restore did prevent the oil from geting to my spark plugs which told me that it fixed the bad piston rings since i'm sure that they need replaced since oil was on the sparkplug.I don't know if i should take the head off,drain the oil and put in fresh without the snake oil.i need some advice please.if taking off the head again will help i'll do anything.:cry:

 

[shaeff]

If you're saying that your spark plugs were saturated in oil, that's not bad rings. That's bad cam cover gaskets.

And Restore is junk. It's a snake oil. Read up on it in our Oil and lubrication section.

Pull the plugs and see if you can turn it over by hand.

 

[supraman508]

If you're saying that your spark plugs were saturated in oil, that's not bad rings. That's bad cam cover gaskets.

And Restore is junk. It's a snake oil. Read up on it in our Oil and lubrication section.

Pull the plugs and see if you can turn it over by hand.

I'll never put snake oil into my engine again.Thats a relief about the valve covers.i just put new bolts in.has'nt leaked oil since.tomorrow i'll take the sparkplugs out and turn the crank with a socket wrench and see what happens.

 

[supramacist]

The space bar is your friend man.

 

[HommerSimpson]

if your engine was froze now its not...then why did it freeze up to start with ? bhg... you are prob better off pulling head... and marval mystery oil is the best to pour down clyinders to un free rings and pistons....

 

[supramacist]

You can't even spell that noise... DOH.

Marvel mystery oil is trash man. Although it would work for this I wonder why you are telling this guy to remove his head???

DOH DOH DON't listen to Hommer.

Removing the head is the last alternative and there are still things to be done Without removing the head.

 

[Zumtizzle]

are you sure the starter hasn't bit the dust?

 

[HommerSimpson]

You can't even spell that noise... DOH.

Marvel mystery oil is trash man. Although it would work for this I wonder why you are telling this guy to remove his head???

DOH DOH DON't listen to Hommer.

Removing the head is the last alternative and there are still things to be done Without removing the head.

are you over 18 ?

 

[shaeff]

Guys, settle down.

 

[supramacist]

I'm sorry Hommer. Ya I'm over 18.

You can't just be telling someone to pull the head dude.
He pulls it. It warps. And he pays to have it machined again.

And as of yet that isn't the problem. That's not the way to go about this.
I'm not sure of what all his options are. But I know better than to pull the head just yet.

 

[supramacist]

http://www.toyota-supra.info/forums/mkiii-supra/8600-7mge-oil-pressure.html



Read this thread.

 

[supraman508]

are you sure the starter hasn't bit the dust?

i'm 31,and i had the starter checked last week.the starter is fine.

 

[HommerSimpson]

I'm sorry Hommer. Ya I'm over 18.

You can't just be telling someone to pull the head dude.
He pulls it. It warps. And he pays to have it machined again.

And as of yet that isn't the problem. That's not the way to go about this.
I'm not sure of what all his options are. But I know better than to pull the head just yet.

Ok then let me ask you in a diferant way... HOW many engines that were FROZE solid and i mean FROZE SOLID have you worked on? and how many have you got UN FROZE and what did you use?

I would say in my 34 years getting greasy id have to say I have run accross 15-20.. Id say 60% were inboard boat engines.. but still a engine...and id say 80% got unstuck using marvel mystery oil.. the rest were froze solid because of rod.. not pistons froze...

 

[supramacist]

I'm not going to argue with you man.

I made my point and that was that removing the head was not the best poing of entry.

That's all I was ever saying. AND..., I told you I was sorry.

You model yourself after a retard on a cartoon and then get mad when you get what you set yourself up for.

Don't get mad at me......, you set the bar.

 

[IJ.]

Both of you drop it...

Don't push me on this.

 

[Finnon]

best option id say is pull the plugs nd try turning it over by hand. then investigate further

 

[Finnon]

ok i read it again. you really should try a compresion check first. then try again with a few drops of regular motor oil and if that raises compresion it indicates bad rings.

thats if the engine turns by hand with no plugs in

 

[supramacist]

TSRM states for plug installation to finger tighten each plug and then give them a quarter turn to the right.

That's it, that's all. Don't wratchet those bad boys down. I'm only saying this for future refferance.

If you torque them down it can throw of spark, detonation, idle and no telling what all else it could tear up.

 

[HommerSimpson]

Both of you drop it...

Don't push me on this.

I was only trying to relate the fact that marvile mystery oil is the most readly avalible and one of the best things to use to get rings un froze...nothing more nothing less...My opinun on removing head is that if motor is froze up due to water... then most likely its a bhg.. and more damage can be done if the motor is just UNfroze then started..with out knowing just how much damage was done on inside...and without a tiny camera.. head should come off to inspect...most of the engines that i have worked on that were froze up... were only UNFROZE to see if it was the bottom end or the pistons froze.. if they became UNfroze with little effort then in most cases its just some surface rust and motor will be ok and no need to tear down.. but if it is locked solid usally getting it un froze then cranking usally trashes the cylinders and pistons & rings...Now if for what ever reason .. say it was the head gasket that leaked and froze motor then spending hrs trying to get it running again only to find out now not only was it a blown head gasket.. a simple rering wont work..the bad thing is.. 8 out of 10 times the cylinders are pitted past just honeing out anyway.. Just my Opinun and im stickin to it :}

 

[supramacist]

Supraman508: I"m not disagreeing with any one here on most things.

But if you pull the head you automatically just spent 600 bucks and you've machined a surface that can't just be machined everytime you feel like taking it to the machine shop.

The more you machine the thicker the head gasket and the greater the reduction of a probable fix.

I also wouldn't just break it loose and start driving it. Because you'll be dragging some sort of buildup all up and down your cylinder walls scoring them.

Chances are you're going to be taking that head off. But what if?

Lot's of if's right there. I only said it once.