Energy Drink=Pop?
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Actually, no it isn't a poor analogy
Both are forms of fermentated beverages. Both are created by combining Yeast and Sugar which is then allowed to ferment.
The yeast feeds on the sugar and excretes alcohol and carbon dioxide.
Oh and before it comes up
Fruits contain natural sugars
Cereal grains allowed to sprout in water release an enzyme called amylase which converts the starch content into sugars.
Sugar+Yeast=Alcohol
Alcohol+Heat=Evaporation
Evaporation=Removal of solids
Alcohol+Evaporation-solids= Distilled Alcohol which depending on ingredients will give you the different types of Hard Alcohol.
All are Absorbed,Distrabuted ,and Metabolized in the same way and effect the same Neurotransmitters as each other.
All alcoholic beverages are the same.
All are produced by the interaction of sugars and yeast.
The only thing that seperates them is the ingredients that make the sugars and the distilation process.
So other then the fact that one is made with fruits and the other is made with grains. What is you basis for your statment?
On and BTW I am a Chemical Dependency counsler. Where are you getting your information?
Also the additional ingredents in an Energy drink are what makes it different then Soda. Just like the difference between wine and vodka are the ingredients. Even though the medium that the compounds are suspended in are same.
Look at the difference between grape juice and wine. Both started off as grape juice only difference is one ended up with additional additves to achieve a desired result which changed its classification from grape juice to wine
Oh and you can get a DUI in Washington state for drinking to many energy drinks. Big difference there right?
Both are forms of fermentated beverages. Both are created by combining Yeast and Sugar which is then allowed to ferment.
The yeast feeds on the sugar and excretes alcohol and carbon dioxide.
Oh and before it comes up
Fruits contain natural sugars
Cereal grains allowed to sprout in water release an enzyme called amylase which converts the starch content into sugars.
Sugar+Yeast=Alcohol
Alcohol+Heat=Evaporation
Evaporation=Removal of solids
Alcohol+Evaporation-solids= Distilled Alcohol which depending on ingredients will give you the different types of Hard Alcohol.
All are Absorbed,Distrabuted ,and Metabolized in the same way and effect the same Neurotransmitters as each other.
All alcoholic beverages are the same.
All are produced by the interaction of sugars and yeast.
The only thing that seperates them is the ingredients that make the sugars and the distilation process.
So other then the fact that one is made with fruits and the other is made with grains. What is you basis for your statment?
On and BTW I am a Chemical Dependency counsler. Where are you getting your information?
Also the additional ingredents in an Energy drink are what makes it different then Soda. Just like the difference between wine and vodka are the ingredients. Even though the medium that the compounds are suspended in are same.
Look at the difference between grape juice and wine. Both started off as grape juice only difference is one ended up with additional additves to achieve a desired result which changed its classification from grape juice to wine
Oh and you can get a DUI in Washington state for drinking to many energy drinks. Big difference there right?
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You can get a DUI in every state from drinking too many mind altering substances....I made the mistake of taking yellow jackets while driving 15 hours....they fucked me up and I had too get my friend too finish off the drive as I was too damn wired!
As far as the argument goes...carbonated energy drinks are a soda beverage of sorts as they are carbonated...but their classification may be different per FDA standards as they contain different properties...
Question I have is..."who argues about this shit?"....I recomend yall take up masturbaition as it's much more productive!
As far as the argument goes...carbonated energy drinks are a soda beverage of sorts as they are carbonated...but their classification may be different per FDA standards as they contain different properties...
Question I have is..."who argues about this shit?"....I recomend yall take up masturbaition as it's much more productive!
If it is carbonated, contains sugar, and is non-alcoholic, it's a soda. "Energy drinks" are just jacked up sodas (remember jolt) with different advert and hype. All the extra sugar negates any of the possible positive effects of the other ingredients anyway. If anything I would call them super soda. They all taste nasty and cost too much IMO, but to each his own, its your money/body/health.
Sparkling grape juice (basicly non-alcoholic sparkling wine) isn't soda.
You're also ignoring the health risks of energy drinks by calling them "soda." Would you give a kid any of those energy drinks?
You're also ignoring the health risks of energy drinks by calling them "soda." Would you give a kid any of those energy drinks?
No, and to be honest I wouldn't give them any sodas either. Dentist bills are not cheep, and future sports stars need to breathe.
Sparkling grape juice doesn't have high fructose corn syurp added does it?
Sparkling grape juice doesn't have high fructose corn syurp added does it?
Well some points that need to be made.
In 2004 France,Denmark,and Canada banned the sale of RedBull due to health concerns.
Major concers are increased heart rate,Hypertension,and Heart Palpitations.
Consequences of drinking energy drinks during pregnancy include but are not limited to
Miscarriage,Low birth weight,and Difficultly delivering/ ( BBC,2001)
Several deaths have be reported in Sweden ( BBC 2005)
An 18 yearold died in Ireland after drinking 4 cans before a basketball game. ( I have had at least 3 cans of cherry coke since I last posted).
Some useful links.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/5753.php
http://brianx.com/nightlife/energy-drinks.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/19/health/healthspecial/19drinks.html
On this web site i found a caculator to figure out how much it would take to kill me at 180lbs
http://www.energyfiend.com/death-by-caffeine
Rockstar 76.78 cans
Coke 356.09
Coffee.114.28
Pepsi 323.29
Still think it is just soda with a kick?
In 2004 France,Denmark,and Canada banned the sale of RedBull due to health concerns.
Major concers are increased heart rate,Hypertension,and Heart Palpitations.
Consequences of drinking energy drinks during pregnancy include but are not limited to
Miscarriage,Low birth weight,and Difficultly delivering/ ( BBC,2001)
Several deaths have be reported in Sweden ( BBC 2005)
An 18 yearold died in Ireland after drinking 4 cans before a basketball game. ( I have had at least 3 cans of cherry coke since I last posted).
Some useful links.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/5753.php
http://brianx.com/nightlife/energy-drinks.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/19/health/healthspecial/19drinks.html
On this web site i found a caculator to figure out how much it would take to kill me at 180lbs
http://www.energyfiend.com/death-by-caffeine
Rockstar 76.78 cans
Coke 356.09
Coffee.114.28
Pepsi 323.29
Still think it is just soda with a kick?
Poodles;1428004 said:
Are you trying to say sodas are healthy and you would give your kid soda????????
Theres nothing wrong with these energy drinks so long as they're not drank like water like alot of these dumbass kids do because they think its cool. imo they should just bar minors from purchasing them, they dont need them anyway really.
Never said soda was healthy, but I have no problem giving kids caffeine free sodas. I myself don't drink caffeine as I know it can do weird things to you and also builds up and addiction.
Energy drinks need to be seen as stimulants and not drinks. It's the same as taking energy pills.
Energy drinks need to be seen as stimulants and not drinks. It's the same as taking energy pills.
Poodles;1428285 said:
soda drinks are dangerous in so many ways dude. Don't give to a kid. i mean yuo can do with your child anything you want but ingredients in soda have been proven to cause just a massive amount of damage on so many levels. its not hard to find info on dangers of soda drinks. heres just one of the many http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2003/07/09/soda-dangers-part-two.aspx
That article also says not to drink tap water :icon_roll
I'll pick it apart though:
Looking at my can of soda right here... Nope, not in it.
There is no RDA of sugar. Also keep in mind that fruits are naturally high in sugar. It's fuel, just like everything else you consume, if you don't burn it, you store it.
First off, I don't like artifical sweeteners. Second, nothing is "toxic." There is toxicity and at what levels do things become toxic. Aspartame has been tested worldwide and found to be safe at the levels used. Also keep in mind pure oxygen is toxic.
I already said caffeine free
This plain and simple isn't true. They filter the water so that the product's taste can be tightly controlled and be duplicated in all their bottling plants.
I've heard this before, but it's not the "demon drink" that people make it out to be. Ever see the fat lady going to McD's and getting one of everything and getting a water? (I have).
One can also argue that most "juices" have as much nutritional value as soda as most aren't truely "juice."
I'll pick it apart though:
Looking at my can of soda right here... Nope, not in it.
There is no RDA of sugar. Also keep in mind that fruits are naturally high in sugar. It's fuel, just like everything else you consume, if you don't burn it, you store it.
First off, I don't like artifical sweeteners. Second, nothing is "toxic." There is toxicity and at what levels do things become toxic. Aspartame has been tested worldwide and found to be safe at the levels used. Also keep in mind pure oxygen is toxic.
I already said caffeine free
This plain and simple isn't true. They filter the water so that the product's taste can be tightly controlled and be duplicated in all their bottling plants.
I've heard this before, but it's not the "demon drink" that people make it out to be. Ever see the fat lady going to McD's and getting one of everything and getting a water? (I have).
One can also argue that most "juices" have as much nutritional value as soda as most aren't truely "juice."
That article also says not to drink tap water :icon_roll
I'll pick it apart though:
Looking at my can of soda right here... Nope, not in it.
You might not know whats in it. Manufacturers are not obligated to list every ingredient. Under " natural ingredients " they can put anything they want including MSG and whatever else they want.
There is no RDA of sugar. Also keep in mind that fruits are naturally high in sugar. It's fuel, just like everything else you consume, if you don't burn it, you store it.
refined white sugar and fructose in fruit is different , fructose has much lower glycemic index. much more potent.
First off, I don't like artifical sweeteners. Second, nothing is "toxic." There is toxicity and at what levels do things become toxic. Aspartame has been tested worldwide and found to be safe at the levels used. Also keep in mind pure oxygen is toxic.
well take you chances with that one.
I already said caffeine free
This plain and simple isn't true. They filter the water so that the product's taste can be tightly controlled and be duplicated in all their bottling plants.
did you ever see filters after their life from 5 or 6 stage RO unit? take a look some time and see what you are making your body process.
I've heard this before, but it's not the "demon drink" that people make it out to be. Ever see the fat lady going to McD's and getting one of everything and getting a water? (I have).
its not the people , its a medical research thus its a fact, not an opinion.
One can also argue that most "juices" have as much nutritional value as soda as most aren't truely "juice."
I'll pick it apart though:
Looking at my can of soda right here... Nope, not in it.
You might not know whats in it. Manufacturers are not obligated to list every ingredient. Under " natural ingredients " they can put anything they want including MSG and whatever else they want.
There is no RDA of sugar. Also keep in mind that fruits are naturally high in sugar. It's fuel, just like everything else you consume, if you don't burn it, you store it.
refined white sugar and fructose in fruit is different , fructose has much lower glycemic index. much more potent.
First off, I don't like artifical sweeteners. Second, nothing is "toxic." There is toxicity and at what levels do things become toxic. Aspartame has been tested worldwide and found to be safe at the levels used. Also keep in mind pure oxygen is toxic.
well take you chances with that one.
I already said caffeine free
This plain and simple isn't true. They filter the water so that the product's taste can be tightly controlled and be duplicated in all their bottling plants.
did you ever see filters after their life from 5 or 6 stage RO unit? take a look some time and see what you are making your body process.
I've heard this before, but it's not the "demon drink" that people make it out to be. Ever see the fat lady going to McD's and getting one of everything and getting a water? (I have).
its not the people , its a medical research thus its a fact, not an opinion.
One can also argue that most "juices" have as much nutritional value as soda as most aren't truely "juice."
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In my area there is a good mix of "national brand" energy drinks and n00bish "almost" energy drinks. The "almost" energy drinks always cost around $1 and don't do anything. The can always looks vaguely energy-ish, and they're kept next to the energy drinks. No vitamins or caffeine either.
Some energy drinks are legit, but I think the number of lame imitators pushes the entire category into "soda".
Some energy drinks are legit, but I think the number of lame imitators pushes the entire category into "soda".
I drink soda all the time and I'm as healthy as a horse..!!
(keels over and collapses)
seriously though, your body is not as weak as you think it is. We as Americans process so much shit it's not even funny, so worrying which will kill you first, Sprite or DrPepper is pointless in my opinion. Exercise regularly and try not to consume too much of ANYTHING (including water, look up hyper-hydration), as it's been said before, enough of anything will kill you...
(keels over and collapses)
seriously though, your body is not as weak as you think it is. We as Americans process so much shit it's not even funny, so worrying which will kill you first, Sprite or DrPepper is pointless in my opinion. Exercise regularly and try not to consume too much of ANYTHING (including water, look up hyper-hydration), as it's been said before, enough of anything will kill you...