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gaboonviper85

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Well considering I already purchased it is it worth instaling? It's a Bosch and it looks much different then the one in the car that I guess would be denso...are bosch sensors good quality?
 

gaboonviper85

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How would water clean the the backside of the intake valve anyway? I know it will clean exhaust valves and the combustion chamber but I can't see it doing much for the intake.
 

jetjock

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Since Bosch invented the things I'm pretty sure they know how to make one. Couldn't hurt but your CO already shows the engine to be in fuel control. If you really want to know measure the sensor and see.

Water won't clean intake deposits. For that stop buying crap gas or start using an in-tank additive that contains polyether amine (PEA). You know it as Techron. Redline SI-1 also contains a fair amount of the stuff.

If the ignition system checks out make sure the evap and PCV systems are also working right. If they check out use Jdub's trick and go in with clean oil. If you still fail take it to an emissions guy because without a 5 gas anaylzer you're just pissin' in the wind...
 

gaboonviper85

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I did an oil change 3 times in the past two months....I'll go to lowes or home depot and get some meth if they have it....I'm gonna try to make something to bleed water into my motor tonight..
 

gaboonviper85

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Good idea...but would taking one of the small vac lines off my throttle and running a long piece of vac line down into a bucket of water work? There are three lines on top of an na throttle and all of them are behind the plate I believe....I have a spool of vac line I can run to the trottle then into some sort of container...i can kink the hose to control flow...ya or nay?
 

jdub

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Too much water flow...it will stall the engine. Kinking it will make it difficult to control...do you have a screw clamp? (get the idea?)
 

mecevans

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we do a 2 step fuel system cleaning at jiffy lube for like $10. its just a bottle with a tube on the bottom that goes into a tapered rubber tip. all kinds of shit comes out. then we put an additive in the tank. i have done it about a million time now lol.

make sure the car is warmed up pretty good when doing it. theres a couple how-to's on youtube.

try to find a cooler smog tech. the guy i go to yanks the plug if it starts to fail.
 

jdub

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gaboonviper85;1356986 said:
Take the line and find something hard I can wrap the screw clamp around as well as the vac line then unscrew to increase flow?

Yeah, but JJ's basketball needle method will probably work better. Just put the needle on the end you drop into the quart of water.
 

gaboonviper85

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So get two needles and put one on each end of a hose...sharpen one and stab it into the big brake booster line the stick the other end into the water?
 

jetjock

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Not the best way because anything introduced through the booster line will have poor distribution across cylinders. I have a port welded onto my EGR manifold fitting but you should stick with injecting it somewhere upstream of the plenum. Frankly I wouldn't expect this to solve your problem. An on-the-car injector clean would be better. Or do both.
 

gaboonviper85

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Yeah I already planned on doing the injector cleaning....the water is more of a "what the hell I don't have anything better to do" sort of thing. A guy here at work has a snap on ega machine with more than five gas option and he is gonna hook it up to my car on Monday if I fail again...then I guess we will have a better idea. Would 2000 rpm in 3rd driving around a parking lot be good for a test? The machine is portable so no rollers.
 

jetjock

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You can try but it's tough to accurately duplicate the ASM. I used to jack the rear and load it with the e-brake but now that I've got a portable I just drive around and let the anaylzer log everything. Fwiw the ASM was developed mainly for NOx testing but HC does increase with load even on a healthy engine. The best way to know what's going on is to sample ahead of the cat.
 

jetjock

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In theory it's not that complicated. What you're shooting for is a stoich exhaust stream going into a healthy catalyst. That along with a working EGR system will make the engine pass. If worst comes to worst put a new cat on. The increased efficiency will very likely knock the HC down low enough to pass. However you'll end up masking a problem that will come back to haunt you in the future.
 

IwantMKIII

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You already have a great system for water injection setup tyler, most people just don't realize it....

your CSI ;)

Hook it up to a small motor/pump like one from your windshield washer tank and apply 12v's.....depending on the specs of the pump it may pump too much, if that happens just restrict the flow with a smaller water supply line

Of course you'd have to block off your CSI fuel line hole in the rail but you're a damn machinist...figure it out lol
 

LordLo

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I just smogged my car.

In oregon we don't put it in gear, just idle and rev up to 3000 rpm and hold it.

HC- Max 236 Detected- 36
CO- Max 1 Detected- 0.1
CO2- No limit Detected- 12

Note: I kinda cheated though... filled up on E85 before I smogged. :sarcasm:

Mods: T4, 550cc, 40 psi fuel pressure, and a 3" system. I was going to run it without a cat and smog it just for fun... but eh, maybe next time. lol.