ED & CC: Carbon Fiber Parts

[Rennat]

stout hoods are FTMFW. i would buy one if i had the spare cash laying around..

 

[figgie]

it helps smooth out the air flow where its merging with the air from above and around the car. which is why you DONT need the underbody of a ferrari...

What??

Aerodynamic understanding failure.

http://engineering.union.edu/~brunob/Fluids%20II papers/Motorsport Aerodynamics.ppt

every single car there with a rear diffusor has a SMOOTH body under tray along with vortices genrators. Without the smooth underbody. Does not do squat.

You can not smooth a turbulant air flow in such a small area no matter how much you try.

Now if "LOOKS" are you thing then by all means have at it, but please do not try and justify it with science when it is part of an entire SYSTEM.

 

[suicide]

im interested it almost everything... with money to spend

 

[GrimJack]

Hey I own an 87. From what I've seen the 89+ models are more popular. I have my doubts for ED making the pre 89 and the 89 stuff. I was just trying to simplify things as I didn't believe they would make both, but again if there is just that much interest in it you never know what they might decide. Let's see how it goes, it's not impossible. Ya know?

Actually, there are a LOT more early models out there. Over three times as many, actually.

Pre '89 production: 82786.
89+ Production: 25779

Question is, which demographic is more likely to drop cash on something like this?

Personally, I'd like to see a cold air box in CF. Something that fits in front of the passenger side tire well, with no holes, that could be self modified to fit any size intake / intercooler pipes.

 

[speed]

What??

Aerodynamic understanding failure.

http://engineering.union.edu/~brunob/Fluids II papers/Motorsport Aerodynamics.ppt

every single car there with a rear diffusor has a SMOOTH body under tray along with vortices genrators. Without the smooth underbody. Does not do squat.

You can not smooth a turbulant air flow in such a small area no matter how much you try.

Now if "LOOKS" are you thing then by all means have at it, but please do not try and justify it with science when it is part of an entire SYSTEM.

Tis true. when you see em on all these "cheap" (read: non-supercar) cars, they're there for looks. Its literally like putting a guitar pick under a shower, and trying to get all of the water to flow with the pick. Its just not enough.

 

[adampecush]

http://engineering.union.edu/~brunob/Fluids II papers/Motorsport Aerodynamics.ppt

every single car there with a rear diffusor has a SMOOTH body under tray along with vortices genrators. Without the smooth underbody. Does not do squat.

sorry, but an engineering class presentation is not going to convince me of this.

 

[Quin]

I'd like to see CF body trim and that trim mentioned earlier. GJ, a lot of pre89 guys switch to the 89+ stuff, it is generally considered to be more desirable.

EDIT: What? Would a modern lit class presentation be more effective perhaps?

 

[Bigdough666]

What about in fiberglass? I dont know what the big deal is with CF but I dont think its all that cool. If you made a badass hood in fiberglass (read NOT the Stout hood), Id buy one.

 

[shaeff]

a lot of pre89 guys switch to the 89+ stuff, it is generally considered to be more desirable.

Meh, they don't know what they're missing, though I can understand '89+ tails.

 

[Rennat]

What??

Aerodynamic understanding failure.

http://engineering.union.edu/~brunob/Fluids II papers/Motorsport Aerodynamics.ppt

every single car there with a rear diffusor has a SMOOTH body under tray along with vortices genrators. Without the smooth underbody. Does not do squat.

You can not smooth a turbulant air flow in such a small area no matter how much you try.

Now if "LOOKS" are you thing then by all means have at it, but please do not try and justify it with science when it is part of an entire SYSTEM.

whats rather funny to me, is that in that little high school presentation, i never saw a mention of the underbody having to be perfectly flat or non disruptive to the air flow... all i saw were a lot of pics, and some cool cars.
and how good rear difussers are! and it really wouldnt be that hard to make a full under tray for the supra, but just costly.
who even made that power point?

i think stout hoods look great, if i want an OEM looking hood, i'll stick with my OEM hood, if i want something diferent and not OEM, then i want a damn stout! lol

 

[supraboi009]

I would definitely be in for:

CF 89+ JDM lip with brake duct holes and matching brake ducting (the ducting doesn't have to be CF)

Okay everyone already knows the work Juan is putting behind getting CF parts made for our beloved MKIII's. I've been talking with Juan, and have spoken with Extreme Dimensions myself. So long as there is an interests for ED financially, they will keep making parts for us. So this thread is about making even more suggestions to Extreme D & Carbon Creations, but showing them that there is a big enough market for them to make us stuff. I'll kick it off with some of my ideas, and feel free to suggest some of your own, or offer opinions. Please keep it clean and easily understandable so that if and when ED checks the forums to see the interest, that they will see enough $$$ signs to want to go ahead with the production. In addition to the parts Juan is having made for us (CF hood, CF hatch, CF headlamp covers, duraflex fenders) I'll throw out some ideas of my own. Again this is a suggestion and interests thread not a group buy thread. If we get the interests, we can get the parts. Please make sure your suggestions are universal in a sence they can be used on either the pre 89's or the 89+'s, as I don't believe ED or CC will design specialties for both as it's not a feesable thing for a business to do. Anyways here goes.

My Thoughts & Ideas:

•CF Upper Nose Panel (Juans Suggestion)
•CF 89+ Front Bumper (OEM)
•CF 89+ Front Lip
•CF Fog Light Air Ducts
•CF 89+ Grille Area Air Ducts
•CF Rear Bumper (OEM)
•CF Side Skirts (JDM OEM)
•CF Rear Sun Shade (Aerodynamic Louver)
•CF 89+ 3-Piece Spoiler (OEM)
•CF 1-Piece Spoiler (OEM)
•CF Doors (OEM)
•CF Targa Top (Juans Suggestion)

Also note ED or CC will not do Interior parts, I've already asked.

CF sport roof for 90-91
that things a b**** to carry every time you want the top off..
and it gets extremely hot

 

[j3pz]

CF sport roof for 90-91
that things a b**** to carry every time you want the top off..
and it gets extremely hot

goto the gym much? not that heavy

i think the thing that would sell most would be cf/fg hoods. if we need to get their attention with some money, why not something that will sell in numbers and get our foot in the door, so to speak?

 

[Quin]

Meh, they don't know what they're missing, though I can understand '89+ tails.

Pre89 front end, 88 spoiler here

 

[keo]

stout hood or onthebeat hood of course but with some ontime delivery

 

[robhojy]

awesome, id definatly go for,

-those door trim peices mentioned
-fog light air ducts
-front lip

also just an idea but, would be cool to have an interior dash centre section with the ashtray and cigerette lighter and the stereo panel cut out, removed and just a completely flat area so poeple can add switches and gauges and stuff,

this seems to be a commanly modified part, would need to be availiable in left and right hand drive tho

 

[RazoE]

CF front bumper and rear bumpers are useless, and would look hideous unpainted...

function is great, but the looks department is where the money is, I see cosmetics selling way better than performance parts..

 

[Zer0DeGreeZ]

intrest?

ZeroDegreeZ

my opinion on this. Everyone SHOWS intrest. But when the time comes to pony up the cash come to pass. Everyone does a Houdini and disappears without a trace. I am sure that Extreme D & Carbon Creations don't want intrest, they want what all companies want when they are testing the market and that is commitment via MONEY.

ATI did it with me (in the order of $900).
RPS did it with me. ($2800)
Flatlander did it with me.($4000+)
Tilton did it with Ron.

In the end. SOMEONE has to fork over money. If no one does, the part does not get made OR worse yet, gets pulled and another "mark" against those cheap ass MKIII owner get notched.

Well I entirely plan on following through with this. I don't mind sending my supra parts in to have the parts made, especially since my supra is without transmission right now. For the parts that I don't have (89+ stuff) I'll simply just buy em here or somewhere and send those in if need be. It's really not a big deal at all, I don't know why others in the past have backed out.

 

[Zer0DeGreeZ]

Also I'm the type of person thats likes cosmetics, but cosmetics that are purposeful. I.E: Carbon front end (front bumper, hood, fenders) as well as the hatch, side skirts, and rear bumper to give some visual balance. See the Carbon Creations RX-7 for example. I love that look, and I personally think it would look great on the MKIII, as well as lighten up our front ends as well. Some of you say that having a carbon hatch is pointless. Your correct if your using the stock glass. But other like me probably don't plan on using the stock glass but rather a shaped lexan glass. In which helps significantly with weight reduction. All these little things some of you say aren't gonna take much weight off or whatever. That too may be the case but add all those little things together. The weight adds up. and replacing with cf parts can decrease that as well.

Juan already has our foot in the door. The things he mention ARE being made. My thread here is to further expand on the creative possibilities we all have, not arguing over why diffusers are purposful or not, or knocking others for making some suggestions. Let's get back to the topic shall we?

 

[87M-GTE]

If any of you have had the hood, hatch or doors off of the car you know that there heavy! so definatly hood and hatch, I also think outer doors and door panels would be cool aswell as other intereor pieces such as the back seat side panels or a back seat delete cover, and definately a pre89 front lip!

Has anyone ever done a rear defusser for our cars? that would be awesome!!!

 

[figgie]

87M-GTE

the hood is heavy?

I suggest you eat your wheaties next time. It might be big, but heavy? Not even clsoe.