Early Production Turbo A?
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The blocks changed before the crank did.
All 7M-equipped Supras are MA70's, MA71 is not an official chassis code for ANY Supra.
In Japan, typically cars are given years based on production date, not "model year." Turbo A's were made at the same time as all other updated cars, they were not made earlier. Production started in 08/88 just like every other "89."
Cranks & ECU changed in 08/89 production for "1990" model year.
Jeff
All 7M-equipped Supras are MA70's, MA71 is not an official chassis code for ANY Supra.
In Japan, typically cars are given years based on production date, not "model year." Turbo A's were made at the same time as all other updated cars, they were not made earlier. Production started in 08/88 just like every other "89."
Cranks & ECU changed in 08/89 production for "1990" model year.
Jeff
Yeah it seems to be different to a lot of other turbo A's Ive viewed online. There are some interesting old stickers on it from TRD and up the side it reads "GROUP A" instead of "TURBO A". It has some really awesome history also. Was brought over to AUS when it was brand new by Toyota and then used as a pace car promotional kind of thing. It was owned by Toyota and was garaged at Neil Bate's (team Toyota rally champion) warehouse in Sydney for a long time until some young guy who worked in parts get a hold of it (his daddy was a big wheel with Toyota supposedly) and then it was rebuilt and modified for a Targa rally and sold before it could be used in said rally to another guy who worked in parts for Toyota. He owned it for about 4 or 5 years before I came along 
At least this is the information i have gathered from the previous owner who didn't actually know all that much about cars. I'm inclined to believe the story due to its complexity and the evidence found throughout the vehicle in terms of the modifications that were done to it and the stickers / badges etc.
Although based on what Jeff just said something is amiss. My firewall number (0095394) according to JDMMA70 states that my car was built in April of 1988
At least this is the information i have gathered from the previous owner who didn't actually know all that much about cars. I'm inclined to believe the story due to its complexity and the evidence found throughout the vehicle in terms of the modifications that were done to it and the stickers / badges etc.
Although based on what Jeff just said something is amiss. My firewall number (0095394) according to JDMMA70 states that my car was built in April of 1988
JDMMA70;1578388 said:
I think what he's saying is that in Japan if it was built in 88, It's considered an 88. Here, if It's built in 88, It's sold as an 89 ..
Beefy: What's your model code/paint code/axle code, etc. Mainly model code.
Have a pic of the data tag on the firewall?
Jeff
Have a pic of the data tag on the firewall?
Jeff
whitemike;1578391 said:
I get what hes saying but thats not it. What hes saying is any car built in Aug 88 onwards would be considered the 89 model in the states but still a 88 model in Japan.
Im saying turbo A were built between Sept and October of 88. But Beefy's frame number indicates it was built in April of 88. Understand the facelift did not happen until Aug of 88
JDMMA70;1578393 said:
Erroneous! Well, let's await Flange's response shall we. (or maybe I'll just ask him in chat?)
As per chat with JDMMA70, there are a LOT of things about this car that don't make a lot of sense. If I can just get a photo of the data tag, it would clear SO much up about it. Also any other tags on the car as well.
The 7M-GTE definitely looks like a Turbo A, it has the Turbo A duct as well, but not much else looks like a typical Turbo A. It's hard to know what was done as the car was prepped for various races and/or modified by previous owners. It doesn't have the Turbo A steering wheel, or shift knob, or seats. It doesn't have any Turbo A badging, on the sides or on the rear trim.
It does have the newer body pieces (bumpers, trim, tail lights), but the front turn signals are Euro/Australia style, not Japanese style. The car is way too early for those body panels, production didn't start for 4 more months.
It's either a rare car, or someone has changed a lot of parts onto it. Data tag would answer many questions.
Jeff
The 7M-GTE definitely looks like a Turbo A, it has the Turbo A duct as well, but not much else looks like a typical Turbo A. It's hard to know what was done as the car was prepped for various races and/or modified by previous owners. It doesn't have the Turbo A steering wheel, or shift knob, or seats. It doesn't have any Turbo A badging, on the sides or on the rear trim.
It does have the newer body pieces (bumpers, trim, tail lights), but the front turn signals are Euro/Australia style, not Japanese style. The car is way too early for those body panels, production didn't start for 4 more months.
It's either a rare car, or someone has changed a lot of parts onto it. Data tag would answer many questions.
Jeff
Are u guys looking at the photobucket piccies i have put up over the past year or something? ill go snap a photo of that plate
here is the plate
and my engine bay because im proud of it
considering it started out as this
and my engine bay because im proud of it
considering it started out as this
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wow that is super cool. I'm pretty excited about the car. Its my true love (lets hope fiancee doesn't read this )
Like I said the backstory behind this car is pretty unique. Perhaps its Toyota prepped it up in advance for promo reasons?
)Like I said the backstory behind this car is pretty unique. Perhaps its Toyota prepped it up in advance for promo reasons?
Its a real bummer its missing so many of its original bits and pieces in the interior and etc. Ive modified it so much now it would be near impossible to restore it to original. Also the special turbo A rear housing for the ct26 was cracked and destroyed. I have replaced it with a gt3582r
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Upon more research it seems Toyota did make Turbo A's well before the August 88 facelift. So far, ive found May and June builds. Some with Pre89 body harnesses, some with 89+. Some with Pre89 engine harnesses and some with 89+. This is getting interesting. I havent found any made before or another in April though.
Did the pre facelift Turbo A's youve found in search all have the wide body and new nose like post facelift non turbo A models?