door hinges

[dumbo]

well i just bought my first supra, its a 86.5-of course it has some issues.


how hard is it to change driver side door hinges, i got those coming in a few days. do i need to take the fender off?? thanks guys.

 

[Facime]

yep, need to take the fender off for the hinges

 

[CRE]

Wiring diagrams:

http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Library/TEWD/MK3/

This is for a '89 or '90, there are some differences between the '89 and newer and the pre89 models, but the majority is accurate.

 

[dumbo]

I was afraid I would have to take off the fender:cry:

So has anyone replace there hinges before, mine are in poor condition and I wanna change them before they damage the body/latch ect.

Any help is greatly apprectiated, thanks.

 

[SupaMan]

I replaced mine by myself (while i was replacing my fender) i just shut the door real good leaned up on it and took the hinges off put the new ones on.

Its pretty simple once the fender is out of the way. its like 5 bolts i think for each hinge (3 holding the hinge to the car and 2 holding the door to the hinge) so 10 bolts total on one side.

 

[Facime]

I did it once on one of my mk3's. Its not that hard. Take the inner fender off, the front header panel and then the fender. After you replace the hinge you will need to support the door (a floor jack with a towel on it works good) so you can adjust the hinge.

 

[GrimJack]

You *can* do it without removing the fender. But you better have scrawny arms with double elbows. Better yet, tentacles.

Still, I did mine with the fender still on.

 

[Guyana00]

You *can* do it without removing the fender. But you better have scrawny arms with double elbows. Better yet, tentacles.

Still, I did mine with the fender still on.

Stewie?

 

[Kckazdude]

I replaced some door hinges on a Supra and didnt enjoy it at all. Even with the fender off. Actually it wasnt the replacing so much as the adjusting afterwards that was a pain.

 

[dumbo]

You *can* do it without removing the fender. But you better have scrawny arms with double elbows. Better yet, tentacles.

Still, I did mine with the fender still on.

this was the answer i was hoping for but not expecting.:icon_surp

but now the question is, avoiding paint chipping haha, probably need off set wrenches eh. and how hard is it to line up the fender, but thanks i guess the rest is up to me, i got about 4 days to think about it.

 

[ForcedTorque]

You *can* do it without removing the fender. But you better have scrawny arms with double elbows. Better yet, tentacles.

Still, I did mine with the fender still on.

It's easier if take out the bolts inside the hood area, to give you a little bit of flexibility. I pulled a set off of a parts car before I had the fender pulled. You don't need to pull the fender all the way off, but removing certain bolts is definitely helpful. There is one inside the inner fender on a stabilizer bar that is very helpful if you remove it. Of course, I have never replaced them on the parts cars that I have pulled them from. I don't know about the re-install/alignment issues with the fender.

 

[dumbo]

got her done not a prob, was just about ready to yell at toyota engineers, but i saw what they were getting at:icon_bigg


before i took either off, i closed the door with a towel wedged inbetween the door and body, worked like a dream, changed one at time, cleaned, buffed, and painte before replacing..

anyways,, my question is, does toyota glue everything,(urethane i think) drove me nuts, or was it just the guy before me?!?

either way, you guys rock, not a nick dent or scratch.:love:

 

[ForcedTorque]

I thought about this thread today. My thoughts were, if you removed the door first, the hinge shouldn't be so bad. is that how you did it?

 

[dumbo]

nah removed the fender first, but that urethane drove me nuts was looking everywhere for mor bolts before i realized. i thought about removing the door first, but then i'd have to align it, prolly pull the 20+year old wiring out too haha.

I thought about this thread today. My thoughts were, if you removed the door first, the hinge shouldn't be so bad. is that how you did it?

 

[adampecush]

that glue/sealant is from toyota. It is there to prevent vibration of the door hinge against the body of the car.

 

[ForcedTorque]

nah removed the fender first, but that urethane drove me nuts was looking everywhere for mor bolts before i realized. i thought about removing the door first, but then i'd have to align it, prolly pull the 20+year old wiring out too haha.

I would much rather realign the door than have to get to those damn 2 bolts connecting the header panel to the fender. Did you not have to realign the door and fender anyway after changing the hinge? If pulling the door first, you would not have to do the fender at all. Just my thoughts.

Oh, and I guess it's possible that the door stayed aligned, if you did one hinge at a time and left the door latched. But I would think it still would need some tweaking.

 

[dumbo]

I would much rather realign the door than have to get to those damn 2 bolts connecting the header panel to the fender. Did you not have to realign the door and fender anyway after changing the hinge? If pulling the door first, you would not have to do the fender at all. Just my thoughts.

Oh, and I guess it's possible that the door stayed aligned, if you did one hinge at a time and left the door latched. But I would think it still would need some tweaking.

nope, closed the door with a towel inbewteen door and body, picked it up a bit, made up for the hinger wear, and those two bolts i was ready to yell at toyota, but i looked closer and they were studs with nuts, so a nice long extension and i was good to go, had to take the turn signal out for one other bolt. all and all about 8 beer and 2 hours.

 

[Asterix]

You *can* do it without removing the fender. But you better have scrawny arms with double elbows. Better yet, tentacles.

Still, I did mine with the fender still on.

I'll second GrimJack for the upper hinge. I replaced the driver's door upper hinge without removing the fender completely. I did have to remove a few bolts so I could flex the fender out of the way to get a wrench on the hinge bolts. I don't have any special long and wiggly wrenches either.

Don't ask me about the lower hinge...

Asterix

 

[suprabad]

Pulling the fender is probably faster and certainly less frustrating.

I did my drivers side door not to long ago, but I just pressed in new bushings and replaced the pins (saved a couple hundred bucks in the process).

I took pictures, and was gonna do a write up on it, but decided it was so simple it would never get sticky'd.

 

[dumbo]

Pulling the fender is probably faster and certainly less frustrating.

I did my drivers side door not to long ago, but I just pressed in new bushings and replaced the pins (saved a couple hundred bucks in the process).

I took pictures, and was gonna do a write up on it, but decided it was so simple it would never get sticky'd.

wow saved a couple hundred bucks:aigo:

i paid 80 bucks a hingex2 thought that was a joke, but up here i couldn't complain, especially from toyota, looked at the setup didn't even consider new pins.

however it worked for you, right on. for me though couldn't be happier, no nicks, dents or scatches, but still why glue when allready bolted, those japenese know something we dont:evil2: