Don't feed Raisins to Dogs. Really.
- Thread starter buckshotglass
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http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/raisins.asp
...and I've seen a few dogs on death's doorstep from eating onions.
Don't feed them cooked bones. Throw 'em a raw chicken. Logan gets beef short ribs. Keeps him from smelling, cleans the tartar off of his teeth.
``DT. Advocate of BARF diet for dogs/cats/ferrets/etc
...and I've seen a few dogs on death's doorstep from eating onions.
Don't feed them cooked bones. Throw 'em a raw chicken. Logan gets beef short ribs. Keeps him from smelling, cleans the tartar off of his teeth.
``DT. Advocate of BARF diet for dogs/cats/ferrets/etc
I love how people call this a load of crap because THEIR dog hasn't gotten sick from doing the same thing. It is not a load of crap, in fact, this wasn't even news to me. My sister is a veterinarian and she has experienced a similar case first-hand.
Not all dogs are going to react the same way to something. There are breed characteristics and even within a breed each dog is very different (let's not forget mutts either).
Just look at people, we are not all going to get sick from the same things. Our bodies can cope with toxic substances in different ways. One person's chemistry may allow them to recover from a large toxic dose, while somebody else may not.
It seems like instead of calling this a load of crap, pet owners would just take it for what it is - advice. Any good pet owner would try to protect their pet from raisins JUST IN CASE this might be true.
After all, the recent pet food problems caused many deaths from renal failure, but not every dog who was eating the food got sick, and some recovered. So does that mean if you have one of the lucky dogs that survived there was nothing wrong with the food?
Not all dogs are going to react the same way to something. There are breed characteristics and even within a breed each dog is very different (let's not forget mutts either).
Just look at people, we are not all going to get sick from the same things. Our bodies can cope with toxic substances in different ways. One person's chemistry may allow them to recover from a large toxic dose, while somebody else may not.
It seems like instead of calling this a load of crap, pet owners would just take it for what it is - advice. Any good pet owner would try to protect their pet from raisins JUST IN CASE this might be true.
After all, the recent pet food problems caused many deaths from renal failure, but not every dog who was eating the food got sick, and some recovered. So does that mean if you have one of the lucky dogs that survived there was nothing wrong with the food?
JustAnotherVictim
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I dont feed my dogs people food. but I can tell you that my wifes grandfather had a chihuahua and fed it a snickers bar every day, by the time my wife was 10 years old she remembers the dog being so fat its belly rubed the ground and her grandmother carried it everywhere.. it could not walk anymore..
there are many ways to hurt your pet.. keep the people food to the people..
there are many ways to hurt your pet.. keep the people food to the people..
JMDigital said:
I read something about people food in a medical journal...can't seem to locate it. However, I have read that it's ok to prepare your own dog food. (Will have to do some research.)
JMDigital said:
amazing. I always heard chocolate was really bad for dogs, it gives them heart problems or something.
buckshotglass said:
Chocolate is poisonous, however, milk chocolate (like what is found on a snickers bar) is not very potent. It may make the dog sick, but what you really need to worry about is if the dog gets dark chocolate. My sheltie (20 lbs) got one of those chocolate "oranges" off of the countertop and ate the whole thing.
My sister (the veterinarian) calculated the toxicity based on average milk chocolate blends and determined it wasn't even worth forcing the dog to vomit. On the other hand, it takes only a very small dose of dark chocolate or baking chocolate to be toxic to a dog...
Dugums: Can you ask your Sis if it's the Caffiene in dark chocolate that does the damage please?
IJ -
Here is the best I could take away from her 20 minute dissertation on the subject:
It is the higher concentration of Theobromine that becomes toxic to dogs, not caffeine.
She didn't know the exact pure chocolate concentrations of different varieties off hand, but as an example as to why my dog was just fine after ingesting a pretty sizable amount of MILK chocolate, she indicated that baking chocolate was 90%+, dark chocolate 70%+, and milk chocolate was only like 10% pure.
Again, these numbers are probably way off, just used to indicate how much less potent any milk chocolate variety is.
Theobromine is a methylxanthine derivative JUST like caffeine. It therefor, has similar characteristics. The main difference for the purpose of this conversation is that Theobromine is toxic to dogs and has no ill effects on humans.
Links:
Theobromine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theobromine
Pertinent excerpt:
Xanthine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xanthine
Chocolate Toxicity: http://vetmedicine.about.com/cs/nutritiondogs/a/chocolatetoxici.htm
Here is the best I could take away from her 20 minute dissertation on the subject:
It is the higher concentration of Theobromine that becomes toxic to dogs, not caffeine.
She didn't know the exact pure chocolate concentrations of different varieties off hand, but as an example as to why my dog was just fine after ingesting a pretty sizable amount of MILK chocolate, she indicated that baking chocolate was 90%+, dark chocolate 70%+, and milk chocolate was only like 10% pure.
Again, these numbers are probably way off, just used to indicate how much less potent any milk chocolate variety is.
Theobromine is a methylxanthine derivative JUST like caffeine. It therefor, has similar characteristics. The main difference for the purpose of this conversation is that Theobromine is toxic to dogs and has no ill effects on humans.
Links:
Theobromine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theobromine
Pertinent excerpt:
Wikipedia said:
Xanthine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xanthine
Chocolate Toxicity: http://vetmedicine.about.com/cs/nutritiondogs/a/chocolatetoxici.htm
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JustAnotherVictim said:
I bet Milo is smarter than you and me put together. He won't even eat pickles.
If this thread saves the life of one dog, I have served my purpose.
Dugums: Thank her from me 
(always wondered just what was the killer in real chocolate for mutts)
(always wondered just what was the killer in real chocolate for mutts)