Difference 1jz and 2jz headgasket *pics*
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Oh come on you mean to tell me you can't understand that?
I run around without a fan on in this FL heat and it doesn't even get hotter then the thermostat. When I ran a 1JZGTE gasket the temps would skyrocket as soon as the fan went off.
In a proper working cooling system, you'll never see a difference in temps, thats why a gauge can't measure it.
I run around without a fan on in this FL heat and it doesn't even get hotter then the thermostat. When I ran a 1JZGTE gasket the temps would skyrocket as soon as the fan went off.
In a proper working cooling system, you'll never see a difference in temps, thats why a gauge can't measure it.
Of course it works. :stickpoke
Look, if you wanna tell me that a 2J gasket is going to fend off detonation better then you have to have something to show that. Not just what you think because your word means very little to me. Everything you say is so wishy washy and you always have some blanket cop-out excuse to cover your ass on just about everything you say.
Find 2 cars that are nearly identical, change to a fresh HG on both of them using the 1j and 2j gasket, flush the coolant, make sure the thermostats are new and the rest of the coolant system is ok, run them near the threshold of detonation on whatever gas and conditions you're using and see if the 2J gasket really does anything you say it does. If the 1J gasket car detonates to all hell and warps the head, I might start believing you.
Look, if you wanna tell me that a 2J gasket is going to fend off detonation better then you have to have something to show that. Not just what you think because your word means very little to me. Everything you say is so wishy washy and you always have some blanket cop-out excuse to cover your ass on just about everything you say.
Find 2 cars that are nearly identical, change to a fresh HG on both of them using the 1j and 2j gasket, flush the coolant, make sure the thermostats are new and the rest of the coolant system is ok, run them near the threshold of detonation on whatever gas and conditions you're using and see if the 2J gasket really does anything you say it does. If the 1J gasket car detonates to all hell and warps the head, I might start believing you.
Ever hear of something called "preventive maintenance"?
If you got your head off, put the 2JZGTE one in. I wouldn't go around swapping it out if your car doesn't need the head off. Buying new head bolts and a gasket isn't cheap.
If you got your head off, put the 2JZGTE one in. I wouldn't go around swapping it out if your car doesn't need the head off. Buying new head bolts and a gasket isn't cheap.
Ric said:
Why should I? My car runs great with a 1J gasket. I don't detonate and my head isn't warped. Same with every other 1J car in the area
Stop telling me the same thing. You're not going to convince me without some kind of test and you won't come up with anything so put up or shut up.
Your own mother couldn't convice you to take a shower if she tried, please.
I'm not the only one saying it's a better gasket that will promote better and even cooling. Deal with it. You can hate on every single idea or mod for a 1JZGTE til you die thats fine, but some of us actually have decent cars and crave decent hp (beyond 500), and things like this mean alot.
I'm not the only one saying it's a better gasket that will promote better and even cooling. Deal with it. You can hate on every single idea or mod for a 1JZGTE til you die thats fine, but some of us actually have decent cars and crave decent hp (beyond 500), and things like this mean alot.
Ric said:
Your opinion doesn't mean shit to me. An opinion is meaningless to me. Opinions are just statements based on nothing at all. A belief is based on some kind of objective evidence. If you believe your 2J gasket to be superior, then show me why. I don't care if every single person on this site says the 2J gasket is better. I don't care if even Jose says it's better and this is the guy who has never led me wrong with my car and helped me since day 1 with Supras before I knew anything. If he couldn't tell me why, I wouldn't believe it. But you know what? When he recommends I do something, he gives me reason to believe and that's why I listen. If no one has any evidence to back up this 2J gasket claim, it's as good as worthless.
Ric said:
Ah, the sign of someone who has run out of things to say. Resorting to insults and generalizations. What 1J mods do I hate on? Your stupid 1600 dollar Mine's ECU? I'm one of the biggest 1J supporters and enthusiasts here and proud to say so. And being so, I want everyone to see you for what you really are. I don't want my other enthusiastic 1J brothers doing things to their cars because some guy behind his keyboard in Florida that's been banned from just about every other site he can spread his BS on said so without giving them any proof.
Decent cars craving high hp? Try again, guy. My '92 Supra is clean, has a Blitz TT kit, and will be making great power as soon as the rest of the supporting mods are installed. Thanks.
Anything else? Or are you ready to admit you can't back up your statements?
Ric said:
Again. Running out of things to say and no idea what you're talking about.
For your information, I HAVE a Mine's ECU in my car.
I bought my Blitz TT kit for $1300 complete and it's great.
Try again.
I really hope others are seeing this and how useless the things you say are. I'd love for you to give me some evidence that the 2J gasket cools better and protects against detonation better. That would be fantastic. I'd be all for it. But I won't believe anything until someone shows me.
It's way over priced for what you get (hp numbers). Joe was knocking the Mines ECU because it's overpriced and you can get more cheaper with a stand alone.
Don't knock products if you run them yourself lol...
Don't knock products if you run them yourself lol...
Ric said:
Read again, smart guy. It doesn't matter if the Blitz kit was $20,000 new. The fact is, I paid $1300 for mine and that's a great deal for a high hp capable kit. The Mine's ECU came in my car. The only thing I'm knocking is the insane $1600 dollar price tag. The product itself is great but 1600 is way into superior standalone territory. I can knock the price all I want because I HAVE one and I can tell others it would be a waste to spend that kind of money on it.
Try again. Keep coming with your idiotic insults. I'll shoot them down everytime. You have nothing worth saying anymore about the topic at hand and it shows by your changing the subject and trying to insult and put me in the hotseat.
Don't change the subject. We're still talking about headgaskets.
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Ric's proof on anything is Rudy at manic tech said it. first of all Rudy is full of internet theories and cant change his own oil. if u sit and listen to rudy u would think he knows alot from experience, Manic is the actual mechanic. Rudy sells the parts over the internet. That shop is the laughing stock of South FL. they DONT have a good reputation down here. and how RIC has them in his sig and vouching for them is unbleivable. say the word "MTR" to any supra guy down here and watch the look you get.
MTR has a bad past rep from several YEARS ago. The knowledge in the MTR shop is extensive, especially when it comes to swaps.
ric, you should stop while you're behind. Like I said earlier, and like Joe has been preaching, you have no evidence to support your claims, and you bash others for not supporting your OPINIONS. Repeating it over and over does not help. You can't even go 1 thread without contradicting yourself. The insults you send toward Joe are totally inappropriate, and show the child you really are.