OneJoeZee said:
^I don't know what kind of fucked up POS your friend has but the Z32 tt is a great car.
Very true.
I have owned a 300zx, and an mkIV. Both cars were great. I don't think the fact that a 2jz can be built more reliably to the 900hp+ range has anything to do with the argument over what car is better in regards to the video criterion (although it is very true that it takes a great builder/tuner to keep a z alive over 450 whp, where an average builder/tuner can easily do that with an mkiv). The vast majority of people weren't buying those cars to build them to that level.
Both cars were very quick and handled well in stock trim. I find it funny there are talks about how "luxurious" they are. Neither one is going to be mistaken for a luxury car, but that's OK, it's not what they were designed for. The Supra interior may have been a tad nicer, but that is all subjective.
In stock trim, the 300ZX handled a
little better, but again there is some subjectivity to this. The Supra laid down better skidpad numbers in the car magazines, but it seemed the 300zx was a little easier for a non-professional (that's me) to throw around. So, maybe I should say the handling of the z was more compliant.
As far as the resale values go, they weren't that far off from each other before a certain movie came out -- it sort of sucks because I can't justify spending twice as much as I sold my mkiv for 9 years ago to buy another one. But resale value doesn't have much to do with the argument either.
The bottom line is, BOTH of these cars were the absolute sh!% when they came out -- No question. The supra continues to do well because of aftermarket support, and tuner familiarity. It also has all-around better reliability - I had quite a few bugs with my z, as did many others. Don't write off the z though - it was a great ride.
When I recently bought my mkIII - I was also considering another Z. But, they cost a ton to work on, aren't as reliable, and I just have some sort of weird connection with mkIII's.
If you haven't driven a Z, you shouldn't be putting it down because of some weird supra fascination -- find a nice one to drive and then tell me what you think!