Deciding on what to do. Suggestions?
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Doward said:
I wouldn't mind the 2jz for its power potential and the fact that you don't need much to make it powerful. It just seems to me that it'll be more expensive than that. More along the lines of the 10k mark of what some shops have told me.
Like I said I have a couple of months to make a decision and to take these tips in. Seeing what you told me just made it that much harder to decide between the 3 engines lol. Thanks for the 411.
Sorry, I was thinking you'd be doing the work... in that case, you may find it cheaper/easier to have someone rebuild your 7M.
tissimo said:
he said hes going to save up 7 to spend all at once. 7 would get alot more from a 7m then it would a 1j or 2j because he already has the 7m. the money he would spend on the stock 1j could get him a rebuild with forged pistons. id rather have a new engine that i know is brand new and ready to go then some "jdm sweet" junker for the same price.
GeneStarWindGSW said:
i bought an R154 for $375, and a LSD for another $150
i'm doing all the work, i don't need anybody else touching my engine. i know what to do. i'm keeping everything stock, fuel system, turbo.... so i'll save over 1k from when i did it last time,
crazysupra2JZ said:
Yea doing it yourself is always the best way in the long run. You learn from it and you always know what your doing. When someone elses does it, your relying on them and hopefully it was done right.
Well for a whole R154 swap will cost a bit depending on the route you go, but its a deal to go on nonetheless.
My 2JZ-GE has a R154 on it and it drives so far like a charm. just needs some minor tweaking
I'm sure this thread is about to turn into this weeks 1J vs 7M thread, but having put a lot of miles on both motors (ie, I've actually owned & drove both of them), I say go 1JZ from the start. The 1J, IMHO, is a much smoother motor. It's a lot more fun to drive.
While I'll never doubt that the 7M makes more torque, the 1J holds it's own. On top of that, I just drove a 450 mile trip yesterday, I can count how many times I look at the temp gauge on one hand....
I'm finally enjoying driving my car, not worrying about it.
While I'll never doubt that the 7M makes more torque, the 1J holds it's own. On top of that, I just drove a 450 mile trip yesterday, I can count how many times I look at the temp gauge on one hand....
I'm finally enjoying driving my car, not worrying about it.
rakkasan said:
you may be right about that one.
honestly, both engine are great. i know the 7M can kick ass when done right. the reason i swapped to a 2jz was to try something new and to learn from it, which i have. it's not like which ever you decide, 7M or JZ, you're stuck with it. you can always buy another supra and do whatever to it. just love what you're doing and have fun. either way, you'll be happy, no matter what engine you decide to keep. and, from my experience, a 2jz with a single turbo at 20 psi.... is freakin awesome. at the same time, when i did the lex afm mod on the 7M, and raised fuel cut.... and was finally able to hit 16psi.... amazing as well.
i just think going with a 2jz is better in the long run, parts are becoming scarce for the 7M, and the older it gets, the more expensive they become.
Its more of a personal preference and which you want to work on more on your goals your trying to achieve.
You can Build a 7M or go with a 1J Or 2J with less minimal engine work done.
Power wise they all got potential, just depends how much you put into it.
Weigh your options out on what you want in the long run and how much you want to invest Shawn. Don't jump the gun because then you end up with something you don't want =P.
My 2 cents
You can Build a 7M or go with a 1J Or 2J with less minimal engine work done.
Power wise they all got potential, just depends how much you put into it.
Weigh your options out on what you want in the long run and how much you want to invest Shawn. Don't jump the gun because then you end up with something you don't want =P.
My 2 cents
Power wise I only want to get up to about 400-450 to just have fun with for a while, then if I get bored with it just spend the money and up the power some more.
If the 7m can be reliable as a daily driver for a good while until I can save up for another DD then I'll prolly just stick with that for now and get the feel of it and learn the ways of modding it. Then upgrade to a 2j since the 2j is what I want more than any of them but it's just not practical to have at this point in time because of the cost.
Thanks fellas.
If the 7m can be reliable as a daily driver for a good while until I can save up for another DD then I'll prolly just stick with that for now and get the feel of it and learn the ways of modding it. Then upgrade to a 2j since the 2j is what I want more than any of them but it's just not practical to have at this point in time because of the cost.
Thanks fellas.
if the 2jz is what you want then get it, don't waste the money on something you know you don't want. 400-500 hp is easily obtained on the 2jz, if you want more power after a while, there are tons of upgrades for it.
think of how much it would cost you to build up the 7M. 4-5k? price up everything you want to do to the 7M and price up everything you need to swap in a 2jz... and compare them both
think of how much it would cost you to build up the 7M. 4-5k? price up everything you want to do to the 7M and price up everything you need to swap in a 2jz... and compare them both
a 7m built to handle 500 rear wheel horsepower is in the 2-3 thousand range, all you need is pistons and metal head gasket.....
it would cost roughly the same amount to swap a 2j in and make 500 horsepower as it would to build the 7m to Handel it, only difference is the 7m is bolt in with parts you already have. building the 7m might cost slightly less depending on how much your local machine shop charges for machine work and what parts you want to install.
it would cost roughly the same amount to swap a 2j in and make 500 horsepower as it would to build the 7m to Handel it, only difference is the 7m is bolt in with parts you already have. building the 7m might cost slightly less depending on how much your local machine shop charges for machine work and what parts you want to install.