damn this wire! (HELP!)

Tae361

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I cant figure out what this wire is for, it seems to come from the bundle of wires below the fuse box. I found another similar wire that appears to go behind the firewall into the car and is red, looks like its for the radio and I didnt mark that one so I assume its negative. I just did a swap and I wrote negative on the wire, so obviously it connects to the negative. However, initially i connected my brown and white ground wires to the starter like an idiot and put the wire in the image on the negative and smoke came from the fusebox and blew a wire in the fusebox apart. Could this have done more damage to the harness or anything that that wire is for? I searched cygnus I cant find the wire. But after searching the forums and making a post i found the two ground points for the brown and whites on the intake manifold and head.
 

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roadboy;1096241 said:
ground, also use macro(flower) when taking close-ups it helps alot.

hahaha thanks for the photo tips but its my cell phones camera...

this is a ground, it being that close to the battery i'm assuming its grounded to the driver side fender?
 

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Tae361;1096234 said:
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I cant figure out what this wire is for, it seems to come from the bundle of wires below the fuse box. I found another similar wire that appears to go behind the firewall into the car and is red, looks like its for the radio and I didnt mark that one so I assume its negative. I just did a swap and I wrote negative on the wire, so obviously it connects to the negative. However, initially i connected my brown and white ground wires to the starter like an idiot and put the wire in the image on the negative and smoke came from the fusebox and blew a wire in the fusebox apart. Could this have done more damage to the harness or anything that that wire is for? I searched cygnus I cant find the wire. But after searching the forums and making a post i found the two ground points for the brown and whites on the intake manifold and head.


I can not see your picture..

but that said.

White with/Black stripe is ground.
 

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figgie;1096247 said:
I can not see your picture..

but that said.

White with/Black stripe is ground.

Here is another shot. Not the greatest but i'll do my best to explain. Coming from the main fuse box, there is a bundle of wires, and they split into two, one goes into the driver side fender, and the other goes out into the engine bay. This wire is the only free wire close to the battery, and when I removed it for the swap I wrote "NEG" on it, I may have made a mistake, but it is not a white wire unless i have to peel the insulator off of it.

When I blew the fusible link(i think thats what its called, its in my first picture in the fuse box that connects two wires, a white and a black wire) it totally disintegrated the fusible link. Could this have done more damage to the surrounding wires in the harness, or is that link meant to me blown in order to not damage critical wires in the harness?

the thick black wire on the right not the bundle on the left.

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I cant really find any good images of the engine compartment on that side and am having a terrible time trying to reconnect all of these wires.
 
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Tae361;1096294 said:
so it is part of the negative terminal on the battery...?


umm no.

again I have zero access to photobucket.

What Jetjock means is if you ground it (ie connect it to the chassis or the negative terminal of the battery, which are the SAME polarity). you will pop something.

Can you attach that picture here?
 

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figgie;1096298 said:
umm no.

again I have zero access to photobucket.

What Jetjock means is if you ground it (ie connect it to the chassis or the negative terminal of the battery, which are the SAME polarity). you will pop something.

Can you attach that picture here?

here we go lets see if it works i tried attaching them
 

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I am 99.99% sure that is the positive wire for everything BUT the starter

leaving a .01% to ensure i don't get scalded if I am wrong ;)
 

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Jaguar_5;1096367 said:
I am 99.99% sure that is the positive wire for everything BUT the starter

leaving a .01% to ensure i don't get scalded if I am wrong ;)

it turned out to be white, and yes it was a hot wire, yet I cannot find a home for it.... my car is getting fuel, and is cranking but its not getting spark at all...

i tested the tested every part of the ignition system in the TSRM and all the resistances checked out, could this wire be the one setting me back?
 

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Kckazdude;1096479 said:
Timmy! Sorry, first name to pop in my head.








The wire in your first pic either goes from the + battery to the main fuse box or is the alternator.

i traced the wire and it goes into the main fuse box, where it joins with another white wire, passes through a junction into a black wire where i traced it to go to the alternator.

it doesnt make any sense why a hot wire would connect to the positive side of the battery to me though.:aigo:
 
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i think i may have stumbled across something useful in the TSRM..

is this the white wire that i've encountered that needs to be connected to the + side of the battery, it would explain why the ignition isn't working

the white wire being the one connected to the battery through that symbol in which i dont know what it means...

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this one is similar and may also shed some light to why its not working, again the white wire to the battery... i'm not the best at reading these schematics 3 college level electrical engineering classes and i still suck but these look like they have some potential to fix my cause?

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jetjock;1096632 said:
Now that's entertainment ;)

its me versus my terrible electrical insight, give me something chemical or mechanical and i'm set. give me a ton of different wires that i cant comprehend and its disaster.

on none of the schematics do i see the yellow and black wire from the alternator going to the battery... just that white wire that have free, i still am skeptical on putting a hot wires on the positive side of the battery. i want to try it but i dont want to have a copper meltdown and possibly screw up my ecu somehow :1zhelp: