92TealSupra;1128207 said:
So far you have showed everyone on here how ignorant you can truly be. None of us are trying to be hostile towards you. We are taking your ideas, and then reminding you and informing you of the " things to happen " Toyota engineered everything on that car for a reason. They made every plug for a reason, every egr for a reason, and every sensor for a reason.
^ They made it so it can work! ^ The best way to [ trash ] the egr is to buy a JDM ECU, then you can start with removing one thing that you can barley see anyhow, and you'll save .. well no money, but you took the egr off right? Just listen to the people that know the Supra more then most people. This site was created to bring groups of people that have knowledge of this machine together, for discussion, help, and experiences with this car.
You even said you wanted to come on here and see what people say, have done, and what they're ideas are. You seem to know everything!!!:3d_frown: about the Supra so, Log off and go work on it.
We'll all shut up and let you destroy your car..:sarcasm:
The fact of the matter is the EGR was not in toyota's origional design of the 7M motor or it would have come on every single one that rolled off their production lines. It was something added to meet USDM spec at the time. Just like cali cars needing dual cat's now and every other car in the US only needing 1. Are you telling me that every car in california needs to run 2 cats? No its there so that it will make the local government happy. As for the tuning specs of the JDM ecu vs the USDM ecu, please pull up the specs and look for yourself. Throw em on a reader, and look at the maps. And then you will understand my point to saying the JDM ecu is only a more aggressive maping than the USDM. Then As for 1 guy putting his EGR in to his FFIM while seeminly everyone else does not would make me wonder who is the one that is doing something different. I dont want to remove the EGR to free up space, or make something "look cleaner" I want that crap gone so I can get rid of all the vaccume lines that could potentially leak or be damaged and cause the car to run like hell. It seems that you two have your mind set on one thing and are incapable of actually seeing where someone else is coming from, or even the truth behind what you seem to be misinformed about. The its there for a reason leave it be approach is fine for you. Every plug is not there for a reason, cause I can think of atleast 4 plugs that are under my hood that GO NOWHERE. Why because the option that they were installed into the wiring harness for is not there. So does toyota make a wiring harness for every single option that they have? HELL NO. That would cost way to much money. They make 1 manual and 1 auto harness, if there is something you dont have that was an option on the car, ie tems, AC, ABS and so forth, they just let the plugs hang and called it a day. So all those Plugs do not need to be there. Why? Because they go to things on the car that are not there. That is what im removing, Not going thru hacking a harness apart and going :1zhelp: gee why doesnt this work? I have been building cars for about the last 18 years, and have multiple builds to my name. I understand a great deal about the generals of the supra, and lurk in forums like this to help understand the finer details. The EVAP system isnt a big issue, Im going with a fuel cell. And you would not depressureize the EVAP system by pulling the charcoal canister, you would vent atomized fuel back to atmosphere, and if it is still being vented to your engine bay, then yes, that would not be pretty if it were completely sealed and wasnt allowed to flow with air to remove the potentially explosive vapors. But being that my car is going to be a track car, I really dont see a solid base behind the explination of leave it there cause toyota put it there. Toyota also said Tq your head bolts to what 55ft lbs? I supposed u follow that too right? cause toyota said so. And predicated on your reasoning of toyota being of sound mind and saying do it that way, or we put it there, so leave it alone, you run head bolts, and only tq them to 55ft lbs. Makes no sence to you does it? Why do something because the manufacturer said so. They put heat and ac in my car, but I didnt want it. Why would i leave in 20lbs of extra crap? They put in 100lbs of friggin seats that weigh your car down, should I leave the OEM seats, or run the 25lbs worth of racing seats I have sitting in my garage? I mean cmon saying that toyota put it there so leave it alone, is like saying god put a naked girl in my bed, but im not supposed to touch her. Forget that, standing there looking at it is no fun. Im going to do something with what I was given. Oh and there is always room for improvement as time passes, and technology advances.
