Cost for Toyota to make the MK3?

[GotToyota?]

I was recently thinking about wholesale cars, and the cost that it actually cost a company to make their cars, then them adding the MSRP when it goes to the market. I was wondering what it actually costs Toyota to make the MK3 Supra, anybody have an idea? I know it's random, but it's just a cool fact that I was interested in.

-Matt

 

[GotToyota?]

Where's Jeff Lange when you need 'em?

-Matt

 

[Big Wang Bandit]

Remember, Toyota got MK3 specs/history from Jeff Lange.

 

[NashMan]

back in the day not to much but now if you were to re releash the supra as in the mk3 it whould cost alot cause mealt right now is at an all time high

remmbercars are cheep now and still sellfor bucket load of money

 

[bobiseverywhere]

Well i have two points to make Originally the cost of making the car included development costs as well. Which means big $$$$$$

but if Toyota was to start manufacturing the Car again. I belive there would be very little development they would need to do. either to bring the car up to date by using newer materials and passing cash test standards or leaving it as all original and claiming that the car is a kit car, for people to buy with the option of having the factory assemble the car for you.

I have though about this Many times including some of the old American Clasics. What is stopping the Manufacturers from building there great old cars again. I could almost bet you that they have all the Forms for making the different part in a warehouse somewhere.

I know that allot of affiliates would have to help as well because cars are made by more then one company. But there could be a huge market for sellng old brand new cars for cheap. development cost would already be covered they would only need to worry about cost of meterials and labor. Plus a little profit.

I can't remember the exact number but the total cost of materials in a car is aparently very cheap. It mainly the labor, shipping, marketing and Development costs that really jack up the price of a car

Or just even another thought. Start a Company here that will assemble the cars and convince the Manufacturers to hand over the Forms and specs or provide the parts to your company and rebuild the car yourself. i.e. the shelby cobra replica that you can buy. Or the Ford GT Original Replica. you can buy one of those for pretty cheap and it has the performance of the original car or better.

 

[IJ.]

Most of the dies jigs and press tools were either sold off to Taiwan years ago or sold for scrap so to retool to rerelease an old car just isn't a viable option as only a small group of enthusiasts would buy the car.

 

[Punkrawker0586]

Well i have two points to make Originally the cost of making the car included development costs as well. Which means big $$$$$$

but if Toyota was to start manufacturing the Car again. I belive there would be very little development they would need to do. either to bring the car up to date by using newer materials and passing cash test standards or leaving it as all original and claiming that the car is a kit car, for people to buy with the option of having the factory assemble the car for you.

I have though about this Many times including some of the old American Clasics. What is stopping the Manufacturers from building there great old cars again. I could almost bet you that they have all the Forms for making the different part in a warehouse somewhere.

I know that allot of affiliates would have to help as well because cars are made by more then one company. But there could be a huge market for sellng old brand new cars for cheap. development cost would already be covered they would only need to worry about cost of meterials and labor. Plus a little profit.

I can't remember the exact number but the total cost of materials in a car is aparently very cheap. It mainly the labor, shipping, marketing and Development costs that really jack up the price of a car

Or just even another thought. Start a Company here that will assemble the cars and convince the Manufacturers to hand over the Forms and specs or provide the parts to your company and rebuild the car yourself. i.e. the shelby cobra replica that you can buy. Or the Ford GT Original Replica. you can buy one of those for pretty cheap and it has the performance of the original car or better.

GM gave the OK to a company to remake the 69 Camaro conv. just put it on your own frame or whatever or youcan have a company build one for you...Pretty cool in my opinion except that they are going to be like fiberglass street rods and everyone will have one:nono:

 

[bobiseverywhere]

Most of the dies jigs and press tools were either sold off to Taiwan years ago or sold for scrap so to retool to rerelease an old car just isn't a viable option as only a small group of enthusiasts would buy the car.

I think it would really depend on what car it is your making. Even now since the advent of all the enthusiasm toward imports like the supra you could obtain a larger audience interested in buying one, Or cars like the 86 Corolla hatchback, or 240SX, Other cars might do better. Like recreating old mustangs. One company has done this in a sense converting Old mustangs into one you saw in the movie ( gone in 60 seconds ) they have done quite well with that. It has allowed them to grow there business into other areas. It looks as if there is a market for it.

But you are probably right about the dies, and to have them re-made would be an exuberant cost.

I guess one can only hope. But i could also place a sure bet on the AE86 as that is a huge want right now by a very large crowed soon to grow. Mostly due to a movie that is being released soon. there are some well know people apearing in the new fast and the furious movie and i am not talking about rappers or movie stars but, People from the competitive level of Drifting. Unforchinatly it will give the movie some undue credit. But it will also boost the mainstream popularity of certain cars and activities within the US and posibly other countires.

 

[bobiseverywhere]

GM gave the OK to a company to remake the 69 Camaro conv. just put it on your own frame or whatever or youcan have a company build one for you...Pretty cool in my opinion except that they are going to be like fiberglass street rods and everyone will have one:nono:

thats interesting. It could also be a good thing though. Anyone lucky enough to have an original will be able to say so. It might even raise the value of have an original car. More people will see them but more people will want them again or to experience for the first time.

 

[Tanya]

Remember, Toyota got MK3 specs/history from Jeff Lange.

:rofl:

 

[Nick M]

To the original question, if you are looking for dealer cost, that is one thing, and it is researchable.

For example, the 1990 LS400 Toyota sold retail for $40,000, but the dealer cost was only $29,000. So the Supra's cost was undoubtably less.

Old cars will not be built again for several reasons, one of which IJ mentioned, nobody but a small niche group will buy. The other is saftey and emissions must be met. And it wont.

 

[born2drv]

Another thing to consider.... building a car back then was cheaper too. Commodities have skyrocketed.... copper, steel, aluminum, platinum, palladium, etc. These have doubled if not tripled. I even read a report saying that it costs more then 1c to manufacture a penny now, and pretty soon people will be melting down US copper pennies for the raw metal.

So anyhow, raw materials alone (no labor) would probably increase the cost to manufacture today by 50-100%, ballpark figure.

 

[bobiseverywhere]

Saftey and emmisions might not have to be met if the rebuilt car is clasified corectly. How do you think people drive all these old repica cars becuase they meet saftey and emmisions nope

either way IJ is right and yes the cars will never sell anywhere close to the numbers for mainstream cars today.

Just imagine though Dealer cost.You could have a Brand new Chasiss and everything. I am sure many people have spent just as much trying to fix there old beatup cars.

born2drv
If you look at a Car and the Way the components are formed there is not that much metal really there besides the Engine block it self. I know for our cars there is more on each panel but that is due mainly to technology if forming the panel compaired to Today. The material cost to the cars is probably one of the smallests cost that you would be looking at in the Manufacturing process. Machines, labor, Facilities i could almost bet is the bulk of the cost for a car. Setting aside development costs and Marketing. Both of wich eat up huge amounts of Money

 

[Nick M]

If there was money to be made in remanufacturing an old car, as opposed to making it look like the old car, a la the 2005 Mustang, then it would be done. Compaines would lose money trying to reproduce backwards. Don't get me wrong. If Toyota reproduced a new Supra identical to a 92, I would be there.

 

[supra90turbo]

Myself as well, Nick.
If they would just make the body available, I would think heavily about buying one.

If you were to make a Supra yourself, from scratch, ordering all parts brand new from Toyota, it would cost approx. $2mil when it was all said and done.

Hows that for markup on parts?

 

[Clip]

pssh. pocket change.

damn, $2mil is crazy, but if i had the money and the eccentricity, count me in.

 

[bobiseverywhere]

Ouch now that might hurt the pocket book a little.

I think The Manufacturers also wont do it becuase they have to show improvmrnt and progress. Releasing an old model would not show any of that. Plus the Japanese are not very big on redoing the old

 

[LuvMySilverSupra]

like any of you would shell out the 25-30k that a new mk3 would sell for

 

[Yellow 13]

like any of you would shell out the 25-30k that a new mk3 would sell for

Id finance it with my left nut as down payment if they released a new MKIII.