connecting tranny to engine?

[doom26464]

ok now that I have to start putting everything together excpet a mass amount of questions hahahahah.

ok well on too my first delima

I need to put the tranny back on the the engine both are out of the car disconected. Now I read the tsrm:
http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Library/TSRM/MK3/manual.aspx?S=MT&P=6

But alot of it doesn't make sense. So what do I All need to coat in greese and what kind of greese will work?

And where does the little fork(I think its called the realse fork) in there go or how do I install it properly???
I need it too go on to this the pressure plate and clutch are on the engine already. so DO I just slide it on, greese what need to be greesed and put that fork somewhere?

HELP PLZ! lol:1zhelp: :aigo:

 

[Poodles]

it's easier the way the TSRM says IMHO...

you might be able to do it the way you have it, but you'll need to pull the fork out, and install it after the two are joined...

 

[bowsercake]

I couldn't remove the fork with the pin and clip installed, so I took them off and it came out. However, i couldn't install it with them out so I put them on and I was able to slide it into place.

Til this day I cannot figure out why I couldn't get it out with the pin in but I could install it. I did it twice just to make sure.

 

[Poodles]

The way the spring is makes it pretty tough to pull out, it takes a good tug to get it out.

I just replaced my clutch, it's a million times easier with a tranny jack...

Doom: it doesn't look like the release bearing hub is assembled correctly!! Improper assembly will lead to it failing and you'll have to pull the tranny to fix it. Take detailed pics so I can make sure (if you can) and I'll try to help...

 

[doom26464]

The way the spring is makes it pretty tough to pull out, it takes a good tug to get it out.

I just replaced my clutch, it's a million times easier with a tranny jack...

Doom: it doesn't look like the release bearing hub is assembled correctly!! Improper assembly will lead to it failing and you'll have to pull the tranny to fix it. Take detailed pics so I can make sure (if you can) and I'll try to help...

not sure what you mean, Not to keen on all the techinical terms yet, But I will get the digital camera out instead of the cell phone one and snap some pics with it.

 

[Poodles]

the release bearing is backwards, I can tell that much...

it's VERY IMPORTANT you get this right, or it will fail

start here (the picture shows the proper layout of the part, but they have better info in the next few pages)

http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Library/TSRM/MK3/manual.aspx?S=CL&P=11

I had my clutch fail 5 times and 4 of those times was from the release hub not being assembled properly... then I finally did it since the shop couldn't get it right

 

[doom26464]

this is a pic of engine before it went to the machine shop with the old clutch on it when i removed the tranny:

and of course as it sits now:

looks pretty similiar to me? I looked at thoses pages and Still not sure what you mean?

And also the little black thing inside is just some plastic thing that came with the kit im guessing its too keep the dust out...

 

[Fletch124]

Throw out bearing is definetly backwards! Your clutch will fail after a few times or using it. The fork goes around the lip at the hub. There is an inspection plate on the bell housing, 2 12mm bolts drivers side. Grab the fork and give it a nice firm tug, should just pop out. After fixing your clutch assembly bolt the tranny to the block and reinstall the fork.

 

[Poodles]

if I can find my spare hub and assmebly I'll try to take pics tommorow, but the end result is it will work....for some time. Eventually the rotation will rotate the snap ring enough to start machining the lip off the throwout bearing (or in my case, the hub) and it will fail.

First time lasted a month, second time 14 miles, third time a couple weeks, and the forth time a couple months. It's sporatic. After buying all new parts (and assembling them correctly), it hasn't missed a beat.

 

[doom26464]

the part in the red circle you are saying is on backwards?It looks the same as it does in the tsrm as well.. It looks the exact same as the old clutch that was on the car and that thing ran for who knows how many kms.

Edit: clutch realse bearing hub as its called in the tsrm. That what your saying is backwards? basiclly the part circled in the picture? The tsrm shows it as the larger circular part of it sticking out away from the engine:

 

[Fletch124]

Yes, it looks backwards. I have a factory clutch assembled in my garage, ill get pics. Keep in mind its only a picture so we could be wrong, more pics would be awesome!

 

[doom26464]

Yes, it looks backwards. I have a factory clutch assembled in my garage, ill get pics. Keep in mind its only a picture so we could be wrong, more pics would be awesome!

I will get better pics tommrow for sure I don't want to fuck this up.

 

[Fletch124]

Ohh and go and buy all new snap rings, and washers for the throw out bearing assembly from Toyota. If you reuse the snap rings they will either break or come off the hub eventually.

 

[doom26464]

ok got digital camera and went to garage and snapped some pics:

clutch fork and the little black thing that goes inside to keep dust out on ground:

I still don't get it?? MY clutch looks just like the ones you posted in your pics....AM i missing something or what?

EDIT: ooooooooooohhhhhhhh wait a second I think I see what you guys are finally talking about. the ring is is backwards sopuses to be the other way around.....Is it hard to fix?

 

[doom26464]

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[GrimJack]

Yup, that's backwards allright. You put the bearing in from the engine side, then all the snaps and such go on the tranny side. This way the bearing lip is on the side that takes all the pressure.

 

[doom26464]

ok I know its backwards but how do I go about fixing this? just pull the clutch cover off and turn it around or is there more invovled? I have never taken a clutch apart before




Also what parts need to be greased up yet?

 

[pimptrizkit]

the only part that will need greese is the tranny input shaft, and dont use alot, if you have a drill with a wire brush head it makes for quick clean up of any rust so the clutch moves smoothly, and just add enough greese to coast the shaft, you dont want greese being shoved into your cluthc through centrifigual force.


yeah take the six bolts off around the clutch cover, you may need to work it back and forth to get it off the pins, and then there is a snap ring you can opem up using 2 screw drivers and some safety glasses.

once you get it lifted some spin around like a cork sqrew


the through out bearing should go from the engine side towards the tranny so when the slave push on the fork the fork pulls open the springs on the pressure plate, disengaging the clutch, and the through out bearings snap ring doesn't break,



did the shop put it together wrong?

 

[doom26464]

the only part that will need greese is the tranny input shaft, and dont use alot, if you have a drill with a wire brush head it makes for quick clean up of any rust so the clutch moves smoothly, and just add enough greese to coast the shaft, you dont want greese being shoved into your cluthc through centrifigual force.


yeah take the six bolts off around the clutch cover, you may need to work it back and forth to get it off the pins, and then there is a snap ring you can opem up using 2 screw drivers and some safety glasses.

once you get it lifted some spin around like a cork sqrew


the through out bearing should go from the engine side towards the tranny so when the slave push on the fork the fork pulls open the springs on the pressure plate, disengaging the clutch, and the through out bearings snap ring doesn't break,



did the shop put it together wrong?

yes the machine shop did put it on wrong:aigo:

 

[Fletch124]

Go to Toyota and buy new snap rings, wave washer, and washers for your car. Refer to TSRM for bearing hub assembly or there are a few threads on SF with pictures on assembly. Thing is you have to figure out how to search.