Watch your temps like a hawk though... It looks like they might have overlooked cooling two very fast cards...
Computer Stuff - Advice?
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Would be pretty simple if you use an external pump, radiator, and reservoir. Would kinda defeat the purpose of a small case though...
I've never thought of touching water cooling. One leak and you ruin hundreds of dollars worth of components...
I've never thought of touching water cooling. One leak and you ruin hundreds of dollars worth of components...
I was thinking maybe about something along the lines of a Freezone peltier style cooler. They aren't too big. If it will fit and will cool more than restrict, it will be considered.
Last I knew, pletier failure = fryed CPU...
I stick to the KISS principal, cause Murphy likes to kick my ass...
I stick to the KISS principal, cause Murphy likes to kick my ass...
I can tell you are either paranoid or have been burned in the past; you seem very skeptical of any new or "different" technology here.
Nah, not really. Both liquid and peltier (which requires liquid cooling as well) have been around for a long time. If ANYTHING goes wrong, you'll get to see a nice puff of smoke...
With a normal cooler, if the fan fails, the CPU might overheat in time and the safety ont he motherboard will shut the PC down. A CPU with no cooler will burn up before that failsafe can kick in (the core of a CPU is hotter than the surface of the sun, it's sick).
I haven't been burned myself, but I've seen what happens when either system fails.
With a normal cooler, if the fan fails, the CPU might overheat in time and the safety ont he motherboard will shut the PC down. A CPU with no cooler will burn up before that failsafe can kick in (the core of a CPU is hotter than the surface of the sun, it's sick).
I haven't been burned myself, but I've seen what happens when either system fails.
I got a bit happy with my new digital camera and decided to dissect this case for a bit more of an in-depth look.
Here are the basic sides of the case
Front [protective film still on]
Left:
Right:
Pretty neat - "built in" [ connects to mobo USB header] Wireless
Rear:
Here are the controls on the front
Fingerprint reader, reset, mic, sound out, USB crossover "speedlink" [machine to machine direct transfer], standard USB port and switch for speedlink:
Here is a view from the top with just about everything removed:
This has the CPU heatsink and fan installed
Hard drives are to be put in trays one way, with a special cutout for SATA power and data cables They fit nicely. The 1.5G speed limit jumper is removed.
Here is the tray that houses one 3 1/2" bay and one 5 1/4" bay. You can see the stock PS installed in this pic.
Two 3 1/2" drive trays can be secured above the previously mentioned tray.
On it's way:
2x 32GB SSDs. We'll see how well they do in a RAID-0 array. I've heard mixed reviews, and hope I will fare lucky. If they don't fare well, I'll either sell or see how fast one does alone.
Tray for two 2 1/2" drives to fit into 3 1/2" bay.
Q9550
I am still debating on what to do about the VGA card. If I go with a 4870x2 I am positive I will need my auxiliary PS. I might be able to run a regular, stock clocked 4870 on stock power without any hiccups though. I have a bit more research to do.
Here are the basic sides of the case
Front [protective film still on]
Left:
Right:
Pretty neat - "built in" [ connects to mobo USB header] Wireless
Rear:
Here are the controls on the front
Fingerprint reader, reset, mic, sound out, USB crossover "speedlink" [machine to machine direct transfer], standard USB port and switch for speedlink:
Here is a view from the top with just about everything removed:
This has the CPU heatsink and fan installed
Hard drives are to be put in trays one way, with a special cutout for SATA power and data cables They fit nicely. The 1.5G speed limit jumper is removed.
Here is the tray that houses one 3 1/2" bay and one 5 1/4" bay. You can see the stock PS installed in this pic.
Two 3 1/2" drive trays can be secured above the previously mentioned tray.
On it's way:
2x 32GB SSDs. We'll see how well they do in a RAID-0 array. I've heard mixed reviews, and hope I will fare lucky. If they don't fare well, I'll either sell or see how fast one does alone.
Tray for two 2 1/2" drives to fit into 3 1/2" bay.
Q9550
I am still debating on what to do about the VGA card. If I go with a 4870x2 I am positive I will need my auxiliary PS. I might be able to run a regular, stock clocked 4870 on stock power without any hiccups though. I have a bit more research to do.
Shuttle and the newegg reviews say you can run just one of those cards fine.
Looks like a pretty nifty case, what kinda of fans did it come with?
Also, if you want to run Windows Server 2009 as a workstation...
http://blogs.msdn.com/vijaysk/archi...indows-server-2008-as-a-super-desktop-os.aspx
http://weblog.infoworld.com/archive...desktop/archives/2008/07/workstation_200.html
I know there was another thread where I commented on running server 2008, can't find it now...
If you where feeling REALLY crafty it looks like the PSU case is simply a normal size PSU that's been modified ad bit and would probably allow you to put the guts from a higher powered one in the case and have it fit fine. You'd lose the warranty though...
Looks like a pretty nifty case, what kinda of fans did it come with?
Also, if you want to run Windows Server 2009 as a workstation...
http://blogs.msdn.com/vijaysk/archi...indows-server-2008-as-a-super-desktop-os.aspx
http://weblog.infoworld.com/archive...desktop/archives/2008/07/workstation_200.html
I know there was another thread where I commented on running server 2008, can't find it now...
If you where feeling REALLY crafty it looks like the PSU case is simply a normal size PSU that's been modified ad bit and would probably allow you to put the guts from a higher powered one in the case and have it fit fine. You'd lose the warranty though...
Poodles;1132049 said:
I saw someone on the Sudhain forum did that - put a full sized modular PSU inside one of these. It's not my goal, but something I may think about a little later on. I really like modular PSUs because bundling, tying and hiding all of the spare power cables has always been my least favorite part of building PCs; using only the cords you need makes it a dream. The only thing else I could ask for is extra pins, insertion/extraction tool and a crimper to make cables the perfect length.
As for Server->Workstation2008, that sounds great but is cost prohibitive. I have legitimate OEM [system builder] copies of WinXP Home, Pro and MCE2005 that I bought for other systems I built in the past, and only two of the three are being used. If I was still into using pirated software, I'd torrent it in, but I'm not and haven't done that in years. I won't pay more for an OS than I do for my CPU.
I THINK Microsoft released a free version like they did of 2003, but I'd have to hunt for it. It doesn't have all the powerful server tools, but who needs that in a desktop?
On the MS site you can use an eval for 60 days, extendable up to 240. I might have to do that to see if it suits me, and to experiment with it some.
Just a little addition for today:
Size comparison between a solid state disk and a standard 3.5" hard disk drive.
Size comparison between a solid state disk and a standard 3.5" hard disk drive.
This goes in the 3.5" bay that can be accessed from behind a fold-down panel on the front of the case. I won't be using a floppy drive or a card reader.
It houses two 2.5" hard drives
Processor happy in it's new home!
All I need now is memory, a video card and a SATA optical drive.
Optionally, also some more latching SATA cables of a more acceptable length for this tiny case. I'm hoping it's going to be a mini-monster!
It houses two 2.5" hard drives
Processor happy in it's new home!
All I need now is memory, a video card and a SATA optical drive.
Optionally, also some more latching SATA cables of a more acceptable length for this tiny case. I'm hoping it's going to be a mini-monster!
When I did my latest upgrade, which was a little while ago, I went to a dual-core setup. I then found out that there wasn't any software, including XP, that was coded to utilize dual-core chips. It's been awhile so I'm not too sure how much that has changed, except that Vista has multi-core optimization.
I have always used ASUS/AMD/ATI and have been VERY happy with that combination.
I have always used ASUS/AMD/ATI and have been VERY happy with that combination.
my drunken contribution:
will woop probably all the computers on this site
or atleast 99.9%. go this route if you can afford it
will woop probably all the computers on this site
or atleast 99.9%. go this route if you can afford it
Normally for this model of auxiliary power supply, you would attach your second power cord. It is a 115V AC cord like your computer power cord, but with the end cut off. In it's place is a 3-pin molex connector that mates with the back of the power supply. You stick the cord through a bracket with a grommet that is made to feed the cord - then you have the power cord hanging out whenever you transport it. That's not cool with me, and I only have 2 bracket spaces on the back, both which will be used up by my video card.
I found an old computer power supply and stole it's receptacle to make an adapter. I cut holes in it that correspond to holes needed and ones already there in the case. This will allow me to disconnect both power cords from the machine and NOT have a trail of wires if I want to transport it. I already tested it and it powers up perfectly.
Here we have the adapter harness for the main and aux power supply to switch on at the same time. It's a big waste of space. The two missing pins were removed by me. Next pic..
I removed the pins here and crimped new ones on the original wires, and the aux wires. This does the same job as the previous harness, without the extension.
Here you can see the little 2-pin connector, and the 3-pin molex on the right.
Dammit, I forgot to take the film off the front!
Overall, this has been a good excuse for me to get pin extractors, a powerful soldering gun [I am used to using low watt irons] and a decent crimper. Fun project so far!
I found an old computer power supply and stole it's receptacle to make an adapter. I cut holes in it that correspond to holes needed and ones already there in the case. This will allow me to disconnect both power cords from the machine and NOT have a trail of wires if I want to transport it. I already tested it and it powers up perfectly.
Here we have the adapter harness for the main and aux power supply to switch on at the same time. It's a big waste of space. The two missing pins were removed by me. Next pic..
I removed the pins here and crimped new ones on the original wires, and the aux wires. This does the same job as the previous harness, without the extension.
Here you can see the little 2-pin connector, and the 3-pin molex on the right.
Dammit, I forgot to take the film off the front!
Overall, this has been a good excuse for me to get pin extractors, a powerful soldering gun [I am used to using low watt irons] and a decent crimper. Fun project so far!